Nonduality Salon (/\)
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Just found this page on the web.
Cartoon postcards about enlightenment.
I liked them, thought they were funny.
Thought you may like them too.
I've updated the Satsang with Everyone web page, and
some other touches to the website. Please go to the
following link for more details. Thank you.
There is no enlighening anyone else! Really, everyone
understands that. Yet, there are some things that a truly
enlightened person says that are like seeds (to use a
metaphor) that fall and may take root. And we understand
that too, which is why read and listen to those we sense
be sages. And why do we talk to each other, I wonder.
Perhaps it is because we sense we are all One and come to
know the One through each other.
I'm going to post some information soon that is helping
to look further into why I identity with anything at all.
It is my only dilemma about nonduality. Secretly I
the creativity of ideas and have no plans to go into a
sterile singularity for many dimensions yet. I am merely
learning here that they are made of nothing like me, so
to cling to them, that ideas and beliefs are not cast in
It is by seeing the reflexion of ourselves in others, and
their responses, that we learn about parts of ourselves
didn't know existed. I got a little of everything in me,
and there's a little of me in everything.
Even before Zecharia Sitchen wrote his books, Jan van
Reykenborh, a Dutch Rosicrucian realizer and author,
something about the fact that mankind was instructed in
art of Self-realization by beings from other, highly
advanced, civilizations. According to him, this was the
onset of the "golden age" of humanity; from
consciousness (the Gilgamesh epic mentions the
"domestication" of Enkidu) to full realization
the plant of immortality away from the snake in the sea).
The sign "mission completed" is given with the
realization by humans, so that in this respect mankind
became independent (the advent of human teachers).
However, on this planet something went wrong and a
set in. From a certain moment, important documents were
purposely burnt (like Alexandria's library) to prevent
spreading of the truth. For "visitors from outer
other indicators are the Dogon with their knowledge of
Sirius system, ooparts (out of place artifacts like
of "impossible" alloys found in ancient layers
stuffed away in museum's cellars according to the dictum
"what doesn't fit in with theory shouldn't be
glazed sands that can only be caused by a nuclear blast.
it is all tied up with nonduality; if everything would
developed according to "plan", nonduality would
the norm instead of the exception.
I can believe this. Knowing that my own experience with
'visitation' of uncommon beings is fairly common, I can
accept all kinds of visitations. I have a hard time
imagining these beings actually climbing into space
turning a key and flying out here. (And you know,
complaining about the food, their gall bladders, and all
that.) Rather I think they move through psychic
and do interface with the physical world. They are
dimensions of us. 'They' are us.
is the really spooky part. Just little tiny human
organisims, speculating upon their ancient roots,
for a time, that we are the ever present Gods' Eye.
Nibirian, pliedian, sirian, orionian, and All steming
little Sidhartha's (that would be 'Our')
"Rather I think they 'are' the psychic dimensions as
interface 'through' this physical world. ... now I
understand why I've never seen Big Space Brothers,
of course, in Our little war of the gods, here on NDS.
Who was it recently that 'Proved' we were not the center
gravity? (and Universes)
Bring them onto Me.
Sunday Happy Here...
RAINBO AND JAN:
RAINBO: A friend of mine, a Ph.D. geologist, Chris
(nephew of Konrad Lorenz of the Nobel for study of animal
postulated that there had been either a huge meteor or
something like a Nibiru which cased the Earth to wobble
its axis, causing the Nile to shift direction. Therefore,
what was once paradise became a desert. He had done quite
bit of work in Africa, including opening the iron mines
the Sudan, and had studied the region intensley. The
sounded quite plausible to me. (He's dead now.) Sound
plausible or is there a hole in the logic I'm unaware of?
JAN: I would say it is insufficient. Jan van Reykenborgh
stated mankind was visited several times and if one thing
certain, it is the existence of knowledge concerning K.
world wide. But also he pointed out that yoga systems
karma, bhakti, raja , jnana, once were integrated and
knowledge was complete.
As such a complete system is likely to give a full
on matters like siddhis as well, it is understandable
knowledge was destroyed for two reasons: preventing both
abuse and being used. Ransacking the cellars in the
could be interesting...
RAINBO: The Bible's real beginning is the word
which can be translated in a myriad of ways but one is
"There were Light Beings." Which I agree there
is alot of
but I think theories then extracted from this get very
nebulous and cannot be well supported.
JAN: With Light Beings could be meant astral beings as
as fully realized ones; it leaves a lot of room for
RAINBO: The last part of the statement "plans gone
sounds implausible to me, we have freedom to choose and
Creator of what we know I don't think goes
that the premise that nonduality now being the norm is
JAN: One could say self-consciousness is a two sided
it can cut ignorance about "the substratum of
it can cut the roots with nature, remaining in ignorance.
Instead of a conscious choice, it is more like a gene is
turned on and it reminds of the myths regarding stomach
ulcers; it took a long time to find out a bacterium is
causing them instead of diet :) It is rather safe to say
that unless a self-conscious species is well known with
"unconditional happiness", it won't survive;
1/3 of all
species has already been successfully exterminated and a
negative influence of human actions on the climate will
probably be denied until it is too late for corrective
The existence of something like a nonduality gene that
be turned "on" is far more likely than the
1,000 lifetimes or so to gain experience before insight
dawn :) It would still mean nirvana could
"take" more than
one lifetime. Apart from that, there has been a time when
Buddhism was flourishing and quite a number of
nirvana with substratum remaining. So nonduality has been
the norm already :)
A loaf of bread a jug of wine and thou.
"Myself when young did eagerly frequent Doctor and
and heard great argument About it and about: but evermore
Came out by the same Door wherein I went."
I find it interesting that the folks I know of for whom
happened without a teacher insist a teacher is not only
unnecessary but a trap. Those I know of for whom it
with a teacher insist that a true teacher is essential
thinking one can do without one is a trap.
It is always amazing to hear a "that's not
about something which is going on personally and
in my life.
Where I agree with you whole heartedly is that each
individual's life is the path - as unique as each of us
illusory, only apparently existent folks are. For some of
us that includes dancing our life paths with exquisitely
pure beings in and out of the body (me too, Jerry) and
some of us it doesn't.
If the point is that we see through our delusions and
rediscover the simple empty fullness of ourselves, what
would be the purpose of saying how it can or cannot
My experience is that "it" is a gradual and
happening. At some points there has been a
blew away a veil in my mind revealing the vastness. At
others an indescribably intimate communion with a master
At most moments I have no idea - just as you said.
Advaita is one of the schools of Vedanta. As far as
being considered the "highest" and all that,
well, what can
anyone say really. As someone born in India in a Hindu
family, I can tell you that such things as, considering a
school of thought to be the "highest" or the
really depends on the one doing the considering! :-).