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#2643 - Thursday, November 16, 2006
- Editor: Jerry Katz
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In the next couple of issues I'll feature selections from The Other Side of Belief: Interpreting U.G. Krishnamurti, by Mukuna Rao.
Selections also appear in issues 2644 and 2648
The Other Side of Belief: Interpreting
by Mukunda Rao. Penguin Books
I. The way it is: Prelude.
1. No boundaries. 2. Can you take it. 3. Doubt is the other side of belief. 4. A con game. 5. Cancer treats saints and sinners in the same way. 6. Have you ever had sex Krishnaji. 7. The end of Samsara. 8. The dark night of the body. 9. The mystique of Nirvana.
II. Interpreting U.G. Krishnamurti 1. God(s) fear and ultimate pleasure. 2. Mysticism demystified. 3. Gurus and holy business. 4. Avatars as ultimate models. 5. Religion in a secular mode. 6. Theory and practice. 7. Superman debunked. 8. The two Krishnamurtis. 9. Body mind and soul do they exist. 10. The enigma of the natural state. 11. The eternal recurrence.
III. Anti teaching 1. Telling it like it is: the voice of UG.
Trapped between a dead past and an unborn future, the human animal has, since the dawn of time, asked these two questions Who am I? and Why am I here? These are the questions which propelled the author to the doors of the most subversive man in human historyU.G. Krishnamurti. And the outcome of that encounter is this exceptional book. From the Foreword by Mahesh Bhatt.
Described as the thinker who shuns thought, U.G. Krishnamurti is the most enigmatic and iconoclastic anti-guru of our times. His conviction that doubt is the other side of belief emerged from an uncompromising negation of everything that can be expressed, not from a desire for some comfy dialectical thesis.
The Other Side of Belief: Interpreting U.G. Krishnamurti is a candid and refreshing chronicle of UGs life and the evolution of his radical outlook and ideas. Tracing the development of UGs notion of enlightenment as a series of biological mutations devoid of mystical or religious connotations, Mukunda Rao weaves a complex portraitof a man who doesnt hesitate to challenge and demolish societys most cherished and comforting values and ideals, but nonetheless commands a most fervent respect and veneration from multitudes of admirers.
UG has always been adamant that life must be described in pure and simple physical and physiological terms so that it is de-psychologized and demystified. He underwent, in his own words, a calamity: a series of bodily metamorphoses that catapulted him into the unique state of the declutched mind. This book gives the reader a vivid description of UGs cellular revolution and an intensely personal insight into UGs unflinching and relentless insistence on freedom from the stranglehold of thought.
With a foreword by Mahesh Bhatt, film-maker and lifelong admirer of UG, The Other Side of Belief offers a searching exploration of the incredible charisma of a man who has transformed the lives of people all over the world.
U G Krishnamurti on Enlightenment
There is no such thing as enlightenment. You may say that every teacher and all the saints and saviours of mankind have been asserting for centuries upon centuries that there is enlightenment and that they are enlightened. Throw them all in one bunch into the river! I dont care. To realize that there is no enlightenment at all is enlightenment.
But actually an enlightened man or a free man, if there is one, is not interested in freeing or enlightening anybody. This is because he has no way of knowing that he is a free man, that he is an enlightened man. It is not something that can be shared with somebody, because it is not in the area of experience at all.
Does such a thing as enlightenment exist? To me what
does exist is a purely physical process. There is nothing
mystical or spiritual about it. If I close the eyes some light
penetrates through the eyelids. If I cover the eyelids there is
still light inside. There seems to be some kind of a hole in the
forehead which doesnt show but through which something
This state is a state of not knowing. You really dont know what you are looking at. All there is inside is wonderment. It is a state of wonder because I just do not know what I am looking at. The knowledge about it, all that I have learned, is held in the background unless there is a demand. When required it comes quickly like an arrow, then I am back in the state of not knowing, of wonder.
I dont know if I have made myself clear. The
reason why I am emphasizing the physical aspect is not with the
idea of selling something but to emphasize and express what you
call enlightenment, liberation, transformation, in pure and
simple physical and physiological terms. There is absolutely no
religious content to it, and no mystical overtones or undertones
to the functioning of the body. Unfortunately, for centuries the
whole thing has been interpreted in religious terms and that has
caused misery for us all.
I am not interested in propagating this. This is not something which you can make happen, nor is it possible for me to create that hunger which is essential to understand anything. I am repeating this over and over again but repetition has its own charm. You are assuming that you are hungering for spiritual attainments and you are reaching out for your goals. Naturally, there are so many people in the market place, all these saints, selling all kinds of shoddy goods. They say it is for the welfare of mankind and that they do it out of compassion and all that kind of thing. What I am trying to say is that you are satisfied with the crumbs they throw at you. They promise that one day they are going to deliver to you a full loaf of bread. That is just a promise. They cannot deliver the goods at all. There is no use waiting for something to happen to satisfy your hunger. The hunger has to burn itself up. Literally, it has to burn itself out.
The whole mystique of enlightenment is based upon the idea of transforming yourself. I cannot convey or transmit my certainty that you, and all the authorities down through the centuries, are false. They, and the spiritual goods they peddle, are utterly false.
Just let me warn you that if what you are aiming at, enlightenment, really happens you will die. There will be a physical death because there has to be a physical death to be in that state.
When enlightenment comes it wipes out everything. That is something which cannot be made to happen through your effort or through the grace of anybody, through the help of even a god walking on the face of this earth claiming that he has specially descended from wherever for your sake and for the sake of mankind. That is just absolute gibberish.
People call me an enlightened man -- I detest that term -- they cant find any other word to describe the way I am functioning. At the same time, I point out that there is no such thing as enlightenment at all. I say that because all my life Ive searched and wanted to be an enlightened man, and I discovered that there is no such thing as enlightenment at all, and so the question whether a particular person is enlightened or not doesnt arise. I dont give a hoot for a sixth-century-BC Buddha, let alone all the other claimants we have in our midst. They are a bunch of exploiters, thriving on the gullibility of the people. There is no power outside of man. Man has created God out of fear. So the problem is fear and not God.
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The Other Side of Belief: Interpreting U.G. Krishnamurti
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