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Two pieces on Nisargadatta
Maharaj. One by Charlie Hayes in which
he speaks of the message of Nisargadatta. The other is the second
authentic recording of Nisargadatta's words to be featured at the
Urban Guru Cafe: "Various visitors put
questions to Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj through the English
translator, Ramesh."
One on One ~ On
The Pathless Path:
Only Being IS ~ Thou Art THAT
Q: It's been interesting
to see the changes [Nisargadatta] experimented with,
especially in the way to express his philosophy. And he's the
reason for this message. Just a simple and small question: What
do you think about Nisargadatta's radical point of view about
consciousness, the one he expresses in "Consciousness and
the Absolute" or "Prior to Consciousness"?
C: That is Absolute
Truth. Ponder this:
To know your true nature
is utterly simple. Being IS and You are That. There is no
"future enlightenment"; nor are there any enlightened
OR unenlightened persons. All is One Being appearing everywhere
as what IS. Know yourself as this Truth that sets "you"
free from the delusion of being a separate, incomplete,
and sometimes suffering little pocket Being was never
bound, never limited, ever-free, and never could suffer: The 'one
who suffers' is merely imagination. Being Thy Self, you are and
have always been free, empty, and silent. Know thy self as This
Peace of Eternal Being. THIS is the end of all becoming: Simply
BEING and only That. Home.
Q: I understand he has
alienated many "spiritual searchers" because he points
out that after the death of the body-mind mechanism there's not a
single drop of self- consciousness. He, as you know, says
consciousness depends on a physical body, and no consciousness
remains after its death. He considers consciousness is like a
drop that tells the Absolute It (the Absolute) exists.
C: That is, as always,
only a pointer. There is NO "separate absolute" to
"see itself or know itself". Often pointers will arise
in a particular setting for a particular appearance of a
questioner; this is why books and such can never show what is
REAL. The One Being has no "parts" to be born or die.
Birth and death never happened to The Being You Are!
Q: Like a signal for the
Absolute to know Its own existence, a light in a dark room that
will vanish soon. He does not despise the concept of eternal
Awareness, in fact that's what he thinks we really are, but he
seems to be brutally honest regarding the hopes of the average
seeker to remain self-conscious somehow.
C: That is the Ruthless
Compassion of The One destroying its own delusions of
separateness. But all of this never-ending storytelling is of
course utter bullshit! There is ONLY BEING and YOU are THAT.
There was NEVER and change or separateness in Being.
"Time", "birth", "death" ... all
these are just words, concepts that appear in the Timeless
Spacelike Being that IS and prior to consciousness yet never ever
apart from that consciousness. Being-Consciousness-Peace are all
"apparent aspects" of the One Life, the One Being.
One-Not Two; One-without-a-second; Pure Presence-Awareness: That
Thou Art! Full Stop. Now DO NOT take these words to be
representative or descriptive. The word points to NO THING. You
are that Eternal No Thong.
Q: I think this
point is a clear distinction point if we compare his teachings
and any other master. All I've read remark the fact that
self-consciousness is a basic characteristic of Reality. That's
what "chit" means, isn't it?
C: No, that is a
misinterpretation of what Maharaj pointed to. CHIT is a Sanskrit
word that translates as "consciousness" but that
consciousness is NOT a thing the mind can grasp. Moreover Reality
HAS NO characteristics in Truth; all appears as the self-shining
Being, which is analogous to Pure Light, only SEEMING to be like
a dream-scape; there is no substance to the appearance and to
take appearance as Reality is a big mistake (yet one that no one
makes; there is no doer anywhere, just illusions!) All appearance
s Maya, illusion, a play of light and shadow with no independent
existence apart from Absolute Being, the ONE.
ALL IS That ONE.
That's IT, my friend.
Q: The other distinction
I've found is the absolute pessimism on the worldly events. He's
very insistent regarding the illusory nature of reality, like
many other masters say, but he completely despises it.
C: You assign a notion of
authoring some judgment to Maharaj and that "author"
simply does not exist. All is appearance and authorless! There
was NO "person called Maharaj" to make such judgment.
That is a projection of delusion, the ignorant mind-arrogance
that "thinks it knows" what Maharaj "meant".
To point out the illusory nature of what in ignorance is taken to
be real, there IS NO mental judging of ANYTHING appearing in the
infinite space of awareness (BEING) to be good or bad, or right
or wrong. To believe so is also illusion. You as a judging entity
are illusion. ALL IS ONE. One Being, One Livingness, One Essence
that appears as all that seems to be. Yet ONLY Being is Real.
That is all. This, what IS, is all there is. Time is a mere
concept. Location, identity, knowledge are all ignorance,
ignoring the Isness f Being and assuming thoughts to be what we
are ... all the while YOU as BEING silently watch and love all
the storms and sunshine, all the play as the Expression of No
Thing seeming Real until The One points out the folly of taking a
mirage to be real.
Being IS and You
are That. Full Stop. Nothing else exists and never did.
Being, Birthless, Deathless, the One Absolute Subject-Awareness:
That, Thou Art. Home.
Q:Thank you very much,
Charlie, for taking me back to the basics. Sometimes is too easy
to get trapped by the concepts.
C: No one is ever trapped
by concepts. That is yet another concept! Being IS. THAT
expresses through the brain as I AM. Stop at I AM, give NO
credence to any identity; ultimately not even "I AM".
You are the L:ight shining through those concpets. Be that. As
Nisargadatta said, "have the courage to be no thing".
And stop pretending to be what you are nOT. All identification is
inauthentic. Love ya, my friend. Be. That is all.
Warm Regards,
Charlie
Charlie's bookstore with
books by himself, Nisargadatta, John Wheeler, and others:
http://charliehayes36.tripod.com/nondualitybooks.html
Urban Guru Cafe
presents...
Phase 2 - Across
Space and Time - Program #2 - Nisargadatta Tapes
Listen: http://urbangurucafe.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/acrosstimeandspace2.mp3
“Those who know only
scriptures know nothing - To know is to be“. - Nisargadatta
“Delayed response is wrong response. Thought, feeling and
action must be one and simultaneous with the situation that calls
for them” - Nisargadatta
The essence of the
message is subtle. The mind is attuned to gross concepts. In this
program is a very subtle introduction to our true nature. Listen
to it as often as you can. The insight that comes, opens up the
being-ness.
There is ‘no reason’
why anyone should miss it. It is the immediacy of being.
The voices of Jack
kornfield, Mark West, Ramesh Balsekar appear in this program.
Three short audio
extracts from the video “Awaken to the Eternal”.
Various visitors put
questions to Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj through the English
translator, Ramesh.
Music by Asad Qizilibash,
Ravi Shanka and the closing music by Van Morrison.
Listen: http://urbangurucafe.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/acrosstimeandspace2.mp3
Also read the cool and
remarkable comments to this audio: