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#3517 - Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - Editor: Gloria Lee
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"Seeing all things as
naked, clear and free from obscurations, there is nothing to
attain or realise. The nature of phenomena appears
naturally and is naturally present in time-transcending
awareness. Everything is naturally perfect just as it
is. All phenomena appear in their uniqueness as part of the
continually changing pattern. These patterns are vibrant
with meaning and significance at every moment; yet there is no
significance to attach to such meanings beyond the moment in
which they present themselves.
This is the dance of the five elements in which matter is a symbol of energy and energy a symbol of emptiness. We are a symbol of our own enlightenment. With no effort or practice whatsoever, liberation or enlightenment is already here.
The everyday practice of dzogchen is just everyday life itself. Since the undeveloped state does not exist, there is no need to behave in any special way or attempt to attain anything above and beyond what you actually are. There should be no feeling of striving to reach some 'amazing goal' or "advanced state."
~HH Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche
From the website http://www.nyingma.com/dzogchen1.htm
"Buddha sat in serene
and humble dignity on the ground, with the sky above him and
around him, as if to show us that in meditation you sit with
open, skylike attitude of mind, yet remain present, earthed and
The sky is our absolute nature, which has no barriers and is boundless, and the ground is our reality, our relative, ordinary condition.
The posture we take when we meditate signifies that we are linking absolute and relative, sky and ground, heaven and earth, like two wings of a bird, integrating the skylike, deathless nature of mind and the ground of our transient, mortal nature."
From the book, "Glimpse After Glimpse," published by Harper Collins. posted to Daily Dharma by anipachen
This is from Bart Marshall's
talk in the video Beyond Mind, Beyond Death,
available at http://tatfoundation.org/videos2.htm
The excerpt is printed at http://tatfoundation.org/forum2005-07.htm#7
I was watching the video just now, and he said: "From what non-experience does experience spring?" and I had to turn it off and walk around.
posted to Wisdom-l
What Is Realized?
by Bart Marshall
As I thought about the theme for this weekend [i.e., the TAT Spring Gathering] -- "Beyond Mind, Beyond Death" -- I took some notes that might serve as a link between the theme and what I plan to talk about this evening.
Some say the mind perceives an external objective universe, others say the mind projects the universe. Either way, the mind is necessary for experience. No mind, no experience. Death is widely perceived as being primarily of the body. Most people believe there is an aspect of the mind that survives death-call it spirit or soul-that will continue to have experiences without a body. But what if that's not true? What if death is the end of all experience? What's beyond experience? From what non-experience does experience spring?
After fooling around with spiritual matters for some 37 years, a conclusive experience occurred last August that finally settled things. My questions vanished and the spiritual search came to an end. During those 37 years I read a lot of books and turned over a lot of rocks, but three teachers stand out.
I met Richard Rose 15 years ago and from then on his teachings became the foundation of my spiritual search. About ten years ago I was blown away by Nisargadatta's book, I Am That, and it became my "bible." Five years ago I started reading Douglas Harding and dabbling with his experiments, then last year attended a workshop with him in England. On the plane ride home from that workshop the experience occurred. Only it was not an experience. It was a non-experience experience. There was no one there to have an experience.
So if I wasn't there how come I have memories of it and can talk about it? I don't know. It's just one more aspect of the mystery. And it's all mystery. Anything that's not mystery is misunderstood. As soon as I think I know anything, I've strayed into error.
The months since then have felt like a period of assimilation, integration, deepening-maybe that never stops. I've done a lot of writing and thinking about it, trying to find ways to make it understandable to my own mind and of talking about it semi-coherently to others.
I pretty much started from scratch on this. For the first few days afterwards I literally couldn't put two words together on the subject. The experience does not bring with it the capacity to communicate. That has to be worked out afterwards, which is what I seem to be doing now. So tonight I thought I'd quickly go over some of the things I've been thinking about these last six or eight months, then open it up for questions.
The experience itself, in my case, occurred as a series of three-part episodes over several hours and was at times punctuated by almost unbearable joy and unworthiness, accompanied by considerable weeping. (Fortunately, no one sat nearby.) But these aspects are not important and are unique to the individual. What is realized, however, is universal.
So what is realized? The first question a person is likely to ask-or should ask-of someone who claims to have had a spiritual realization is "What did you realize?" I've been working on my short answer. Here's the current version:
In August 2004 something happened that corrected a basic mistake in perception I'd lived with all my life. Prior to this occurrence I thought I was an individual consciousness experiencing an infinitely large, infinitely old, external universe of real objects. What I discovered, however, is that the consciousness I mistakenly perceived as belonging to an individual (Me), is in actuality God consciousness, the One consciousness, and that Me, the universe and everything in it are vague, ephemeral thought-forms appearing in and out of emptiness in a timeless, spaceless Now.
It was a shattering revelation, but at the same time so obvious and self-evident I realized I'd known all along. I became un-fooled. A case of mistaken identity -- very close to home -- was resolved. There is only God consciousness. Here, where I am, there is consciousness. Therefore, I am That.
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