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#4353 - Monday, August 29, 2011 - Editor: Gloria Lee
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We think that there is something hiding our
reality and that it must be destroyed before the
reality is gained. It is ridiculous. A day will dawn
when you will yourself laugh at your past efforts.
That which will be on the day you laugh is also
here and now.

- Sri Ramana Maharshi

Along The Way


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Vikash, I had dinner with Papaji just before he died. He was a very ordinary
and happy person. I gave him some cigarettes and bourbon that he used for
currency for the back stage guys. He was just sitting at his kitchen table with
the TV on. He counsels all the gawkers to simply give up the search. Now that
he and Ramana are dead, ordinary folks on this group are sharing the same
said wisdom while enjoying their lives without conflict. The here and now
does not need thinking to change anything. The here and now is always
already utter acceptance. No additional effort is required. Keep the message
and leave the messenger. Keep simple faith and leave belief. Being happy and
ordinary does not require effort. The happy and ordinary are in communion
with the sacred, already.


by John Troy, writing in the Facebook group, Conversations With Avant-garde
Sages


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The Absolute and the Relative - Separation?
By Bill Lindley




"Awakening" is not a choice or "position". It is not about choosing the right
path among others, or landing on a "better" concept. Awakening is awakening
from all those things, not awakening to them.

One of the self declared "awakened teachers" on Facebook, continually talks
about the mixture of "absolute" and "relative" language as being at the heart
of all misunderstanding between "seekers" and teachers of non-duality. This is
also used to point to the "neo"; that somehow not quite legitimate teacher,
who mixes his absolute and relative like cocktails.

The "Absolute" contains the relative within it. They are not separate. The
relative is not some "bastard stepchild" of the Absolute, but an expression of
it. You are an expression of the Absolute; Love itself. Separating the
expression of Love from Love itself is in the mind. The expression is the Love
itself in expression. Your "form" is the expression of Love. Temporary, from
dust, but the substance is Love.

It may be difficult to mix Absolute with relative, but this is the choice of the
universe in it's expressions. This is what acceptance is all about. Our "self
declared awakened teacher" mentioned above seems to have difficulty in
accepting the nebulous quality of "clear" understanding. (see Nebulous Clarity;
(https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=118768064850624 ) Yes, the
awakened see clearly that there is no clear seeing. As I once wrote in my
Blog, "When you completely understand that there is no complete
understanding, your understanding is complete."

This "need" to separate Absolute from relative, may be present in the early
seeker, but once awakening takes place, the "two" blend into the
understanding. The "relative" including the "I am", and the "persona", are
seen for what they are. The "I am" and the body/mind are "still" there, but
seen as useful "tools", necessary for their own survival only, but not at all
necessary for the understanding.

Initially in the search, we may need to "discriminate", vivika. But once all this
"separation" in the name of non-duality is seen through, we need to accept.
Accept the paradoxes, the "Nebulous Clairity." Embrace the relative in the
name of the Absolute, the "expresser" of the "expression". Life opens before
you. Every moment is a miracle. Don't separate the miracle into "Absolute"
and "relative", but embrace both as one, Tat Tvam Asi.

Peace






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There is only the Present, where else should I meet Ramana?
By Bill Lindley




What is the relevance of the Scriptures? What is the degree of reverence we
should show for a Buddha, a Christ or a Ramana Maharshi?



I was reading some comments to a thread a friend had put up on neoadvaita.
It had deteriorated into a discussion of the need for following "past" sages,
such a Ramana Maharshi . Ramana is dead, it was said. Ideas about him are
only imagination and a need for "heroes". Is that all they are? More stories?

Ramana's "story" entered "mine" back in physical time, in 1986. Now, they
are both "stories" with a time bound history. But at that nano-second of what
was then "the now", Ramana and "I " met. Described out of another's
memory (David Godman's), Ramana became a part of my mental and visual
experience. Not a "dead" Ramana, wrapped in history, suffering from poor
translations, but a Ramana that lives for me, right here, right now. There is
only the present, where else should I meet Ramana?

We are all expressions of Love, unfolded continually. When the folds of Love's
potential reveal both the expressions of "me" and "Ramana", the expression
of love for Ramana, and Ramana for me is complete. This is not the loving or
"worshiping" of a "past" or "dead" being, but a new presence of "my"
expression" and the "expression" which is Ramana. If Ramana enters my life,
in the form of a dream, a book, or even a reference on Facebook, this is a
new "experience", a "now" experience.

This is why it is so important to have your own experience with Ramana, or
Christ or Buddha. Regardless of translation, reference or concordance, ask
yourself, "what does this say to me ?" Even if someone else recommended it,
or compels you to read it, it is you that it speaks to; you alone. There is but
one voice to hear, and one voice to speak.

What is the relevance of the Scriptures? When they present themselves, their
voice meets your ear, their heart meets your heart. No time intervention, the
voice speaks, the ear/heart hears, and an unfolding. New with itself, not
"past", but always lively, in the "now".

And the saints? The sages, the Buddha, the Christ, Ramana, or Nisargadatta?
Do we owe them reverence or respect? They asked nothing, but for our
attention. But they, and we, are expressions of Love itself. We are created to
love each other; our guides, as well as those entrusted to us. There is only
the present, where else should I meet you? There is only the present, where
else should I meet Ramana?


Peace



"If I allow you to interpret Ramana's words for me, who will be found to
interpret Ramana's Smile?"





comment:

...we are the Christ, Buddha and Ramana only in relationship. We have
no "existence", nor do "they" outside of being expressions of Love. The "Love,"
the "relationship" is the reality.

The present moment is now, full of paradox. How else can Ramana and I,
and you, for that matter, be one? We flow together; one Love in many
expressions. Relationship without subjects or objects. Pure relationship, pure
flow. There is only Love, and its expressions, its "relationships".

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