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Group: NDhighlights Message: 4960 From: Dustin LindenSmith Date: 2013-06-29
Subject: #4960 - Fri/Sat June 28/29, 2013 - Editor: Dustin LindenSmith
#4960 - Fri/Sat June 28/29, 2013 - Editor: Dustin LindenSmith

Today's Highlights of the Highlights come from a February 2007 Issue edited by Gloria. A light is shined on themes such as...

-- being in the world, but not of it
-- the true nature (and/or importance) of satori-like experiences
-- a nice working definition of enlightenment
-- on relinquishing self-concern

Big love to all who are reading this message.

Dustin



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Date: Tue, Feb 6, 2007 at 6:17 PM
Subject: [NDhighlights] #2721 - Monday, February 5, 2007 - Editor: Gloria Lee
To: NDH NDhighlights@yahoogroups.com>
 
#2721 - Monday, February 5, 2007 - Editor: Gloria Lee
 
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There is really nothing you must be and there is nothing
you must do. There is really nothing you must have and
there is nothing you must know. There is really nothing
you must become. However, it helps to understand that
fire burns, and when it rains, the earth gets wet.
 
--Zen saying

 

 
Most people think of enlightenment as a kind of magical
attainment, a state of being close to perfection. At this
level, one can perform amazing feats, see past and future
lives of others, and tune in to the inner workings of the
universe. This may be possible for a number of special
beings, but for most of us enlightenment is much more in
line with what Suzuki Roshi describes. It means having a
quality of "beginningness," a fresh, simple, unsophisticated
view of things. To have "beginner's mind" in how we
approach things is a major teaching. In many ways, the
process of enlightenment is clearing away the thoughts,
beliefs, and ideas that cloud our ability to see things as
they really are in their pristine form.
 
--David A. Cooper, Silence, Simplicity and Solitude
 

 
After you wake up you probably open the curtains and look
outside. You may even like to open the window and feel
the cool morning air with the dew still on the grass. But is
what you see really "outside"? In fact, it is your own mind.
As the sun sends its rays through the window, you are not
just yourself. You are also the beautiful view from your
window. You are the Dharmakaya.
 
Dharmakaya literally means the body (kaya) of the
Buddha's teachings (Dharma), the way of understanding
and love. Before passing away, the Buddha told his
disciples, "Only my physical body will pass away. My Dharma
body will remain with you forever." In Mahayana Buddhism,
the word has come to mean "the essence of all that
exists." All phenomena--the song of a bird, the warm rays
of the sun, a cup of hot tea--are manifestations of the
Dharmakaya. We, too, are of the same nature as these
wonders of the universe.
 
--Thich Nhat Hanh, Present Moment, Wonderful Moment
 

 
As great as the infinite space beyond is the space within
the lotus of the heart. Both heaven and earth are
contained in that inner space, both fire and air, sun and
moon, lightning and stars. Whether we know it in this world
or know it not, everything is contained in that inner space.
 
--Chandogya Upanishad From The Upanishads,
translated by Eknath Easwaran
 

 
"The emergence and blossoming of understanding, love and
intelligence has nothing to do with any tradition, no matter
how ancient or impressive - it has nothing to do with time.
It happens completely on its own when a human being
questions, wonders, listens and looks without getting stuck
in fear, pleasure and pain. When self concern is quiet, in
abeyance, heaven and earth are open. The mystery, the
essence of all life is not separate from the silent openness
of simple listening."
 
--Toni Packer
 
From her website: http://www.stillwater.com 
posted to Daily Dharma
 

 
 
 
A monk was walking in the monastery grounds one day
when he heard a bird sing.
 
He listened, spellbound. It seemed to him that never
before had he heard, really heard, the song of a bird.
 
When the singing stopped he returned to the monastery
and discovered, to his dismay, that he was a stranger to his
fellow monks, and they to him.
 
It was only gradually that they and he discovered that he
was returning after centuries. Because his listening was
total, time had stopped and he had slipped into eternity.
 

 

A Spiritual Journey

By Wendell Berry
(1934 - )

And the world cannot be discovered by a journey of miles,
no matter how long,
but only by a spiritual journey,
a journey of one inch,
very arduous and humbling and joyful,
by which we arrive at the ground at our feet,
and learn to be at home.

 

Poetry Chaikhana Home


Group: NDhighlights Message: 4961 From: Gloria Lee Date: 2013-07-01
Subject: #4961 - Monday, July 1, 2013 - Editor: Gloria Lee

#4961 - Monday,В July 1, 2013 - Editor: Gloria Lee
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В 
Why Enlightenment Might Be Bad For You
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~ G. S. Bobroff
Via elephant journal on May 23, 2013
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"His wheel was stuck in a ditch of light, so to speak, and he felt an
overpowering urge to steer in the direction of darkness. If the earth
needs night as well as day, wouldnÂ’t it follow that the soul requires
endarkenment to balance enlightenment?"
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~ Tom Robbins, Jitterbug Perfume
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The most recent chapter in the history of human evolution can be seen as a bursting
forth of the Г‚вЂ˜lightwardÂ’ movement of consciousness out of the body and into the
mind.
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Our ancestors led us up into the light of greater moral clarity by overcoming
superstitious thinking and the bodyÂ’s dark instinctual forces. Moral action required
the repression of instinct and we accomplished becoming the most rational,
goal-oriented and productive human society that there ever has been. But, having
tilted ourselves toward the light, toward the upward, spirit-focused part of
ourselves, have we come to neglect another part of who we are?
В 
In turning toward spirit, we rejected the material world in all its aspects including
the embodied human one. When our Creation stories painted the body, matter and
sexuality as sinful, a part of our nature was placed into the shadow. Today we
continue to carry forward this split only we donÂ’t know it—and doing so has made
us dangerous.
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Along the way on this trip, we have come to see ourselves as the light-bringers.
Certain that our particular brand of philosophy will save the dirty Philistines from
wallowing in their dark unknowing, we funded projects like the Crusades, the
Inquisition and Residential Schools in all their various enlightening forms.
В 
We still have cultures functioning today that produce people who fly planes into
buildings because they know that Г‚вЂ˜up thereÂ’ they will receive a heroÂ’s welcome.
В 
Modern light-bringing has so many forms: our political enlightenment will keep
tyranny from bothering you again (“sorry Г‚вЂ˜bout your house”); our economic
enlightenment will save those lazy people over there; our scientific enlightenment
can prove conclusively that all that spiritual hub-jub is pure gobbledygook (see the
recent TED controversy); our religious enlightenment will lead you up to heaven
(Bodhisattva wonÂ’t you take me by the hand!)—and in its latest form if you just do
the magically right combo of mantras, sutras and asanas (and send Swami Googoo Gi
$19.55) up, up, up you will going into the ultimate backstage party—Ascendance!
В 
And when that day comes it will, of course, only be the ones on the unsinful diet of
organic sunshine that get to go in. The So Cal yoga scene does a particularly
attractive job of trotting this out. Pretty-focused, these spiritual fashionistas sell
you the practice/diet/jewelry that ensures that you can feel superior to other
people; here light and positive talk abound, so be sure to avoid becoming a social
outcast in this culture by never saying anything negative. These folks might be
shooting up light, but they are at least talking about trying to grow in
consciousness!
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What we donÂ’t get in all this stuff is that itÂ’s possible to embody our
dark side in a guise of light; we donÂ’t understand that reason has a
shadow.
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В 
Today we act out the darkness of human evil in forms of rational action: where
thereÂ’s a will thereÂ’s a way has us overcoming all the obstacles between us and
destroying the world we live in; we skate on razor-sharp rational blades
efficiently toward self-inflicted apocalypse with words like Г‚вЂ˜economic necessity;Â’
we act out our hate for those happily embodied others that dare to own their
sexuality in our world, and we do so certain and safe under the protection of our
own higher righteousness.
В 
"The governing dream of the twentieth century appears as a kind of
ultimate manifestation of a deep inner rage of Western society
against its earthly condition."
~ Thomas Berry
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В 
Righteousness has so many rational forms in our world, but how many of those
forms are shadow cloaks in which we act out an unconscious psychological split
between spirit and matter—ways in which we express our deep resentment of
having to actually participate in an imperfect, disappointing, potentially dying
world and exist in an aging, flawed and occasionally heart-wrenched physical body?
В 
We identify all goodness with spirit, light and up and all evil with darkness, body
and the down of the worldÂ’s reality. Living too much in up, too much in our heads, in
spirit and in reason and not in our bodies, we resent those who do.
В 
Holding the tension of this split makes us tend to see those around us who have
worked though it as bad and maybe even dangerous—thatÂ’s why we hang the mystic
lovers on crosses and burn them on pyres. “Knowing not what we do,” we think that
SpiritÂ’s splendorous light is up there and sexuality is down here, instead of
listening to those wondrous teachers that give voice to a love that is firmly planted
in the world.
В 
We particularly dislike it when those teachers are our neighbors: the person right
beside us whoÂ’s managed to learn to live in their heart just a little bit more than we
have; those who have come to embody their sexuality with less shame than we carry;
those who place the planetÂ’s needs above their own; those we encounter with the
moral courage to live fiercely in the world with their hearts open and present.
В 
Jung said that if we worked at becoming conscious we might barely
make it through the disasters ahead of us.
В 
When we identify goodness with light, right and upward, we fail in that task.
В 
WhatÂ’s required of us is a willingness to drop our inner identification with light
and get down close to the dark—our own and that around us. And then we must feel
what comes of that (horror, rage, wonder, passion?), because there simply is no
change without emotion—if you do not feel through to the healing then itÂ’s all just
an idea in your head.
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В 
The split between spirit and matter inside of us is only resolved in one place
folks—in our hearts—in the discomfort and suffering of real pain and the ecstatic
joy of real love.
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В 
"Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the
barriers within yourself that you have built against it."
~ Rumi
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_______________________________________________
В 
G. S. Bobroff, M.A. has a MasterÂ’s degree in in Jungian-oriented
Psychology from Pacifica Graduate Institute of Santa Barbara, CA
and is the author of Crop Circles, Jung & the Re-Emergence of the
Archetypal Feminine (available on North Atlantic Books in August
2014). His other articles on elephant journal include: “On
Synchronicity & Romantic Fate” click here.. His website isВ 
В GSBobroff.com.
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Group: NDhighlights Message: 4962 From: Jerry Katz Date: 2013-07-02
Subject: #4962 - Tuesday, July 2, 2013 - Editor: Jerry Katz
#4962 - Tuesday, July 2, 2013 - Editor: Jerry Katz

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John Troy writes...

I just finished editing a little e-booklet called, In Other Words. It is a very short read. Have a look.

http://www.thewizardllc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/In-Other-Words1.pdf

Excerpt:

Sentience Isn’t a Primate Byproduct

Emerging from unbroken sentience is a beautiful
revelation. Believing one is the I-thought or the body/mind
or primate is just another belief fraught with brittleness. It
is similar to believing one is the character in a dream.
The same function of belief is not applicable in the
recognition of our unbroken sentience. To delineate
empirical knowledge, belief, memory and/or intellect from
immanent tacit intuition is to transcend beliefs. The
residuum is unbroken existence.

From the outlook of unbroken sentience, all is a play of
consciousness unfolding perfectly within our still Self, host
of all forms. Forms are not the host of sentience. Forms
appear, inhere and disappear in seamless sentience.
Biology doesn’t actually create sentience; biology creates
the mortal myth within sentience.


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Experience Conscious Living – Exclusive Interview with Ivan Rados

June 2011
http://www.bestofyoutoday.com

BOYT: Please explain how you define consciousness, this term is often used but also often misunderstood.

Ivan: Consciousness cannot be defined, it has never been defined and it will never be defined. To define something you have to create a distance, you need to stand out of it; you need a space between definer and defined. How can you define yourself? If you are outside of yourself, who is there to define it? Everything else can be defined, watched, observed, experimented, moved, dissected, but not the definer, because everything else is before consciousness. Who will define consciousness? Consciousness is you. It is mystery not to be known, but to be lived. You can know outside, but you can never know inside—because you are already there, melted in oneness with the essence of you.

This is the paradox: those who claim to know the consciousness are unconscious, and those who come to a point where they don’t know the consciousness are conscious. If you say, “I am conscious,” then the question arises, “Conscious about what?” Consciousness has no idea of “I” or “Me”; it has no personality, no ego, no idea of one’s separation from the wholeness. It is one with the existence. It is flowing into the wholeness, and the wholeness is flowing into the one. Consciousness is a process, a flow like breathing—when you breathe in, the whole enters in you, when you breathe out, you enter the whole.

When we think about consciousness we usually think about the mind. The mind is not consciousness. The mind is using consciousness for its own existence. So, the mind cannot exist without consciousness, but consciousness IS the existence. Consciousness without thinking is awareness, or what I like calling it, The Infinite Consciousness. It is awareness that YOU ARE—whole, wholly, present, alive and infinite. It is not a thought; it is alertness without the thought. It is the essence of ALL THAT IS. What is IS at this moment of NOW. So, the moment of NOW is consciousness. Be in the moment and you are with it, you are IT.

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Read the entire interview here:

http://ivanrados.com/?p=305
Group: NDhighlights Message: 4963 From: Jerry Katz Date: 2013-07-03
Subject: #4963 - Wednesday, July 3, 2013 - Editor: Jerry Katz
#4963 - Wednesday, July 3, 2013 - Editor: Jerry Katz

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On Labyrinths, Grace and the Via Creativa
by miriam louisa simons

In an essay rich in the heart wisdom of nondual awareness, lifetime artisan Miriam Louisa Simons shares her perspective on the Via Creativa and how it relates to Grace and the Labyrinth of Life. She writes: “As an impersonal energetic continuum, one enters the Labyrinth called Life, again and again, time without end. The journey is always to the Heart, always into remembrance of what one actually is. The process is Life’s exploration of the infinity of ways it can experience itself as form and emptiness, and return to home base . . .”


Do you think I know what I’m doing?

That for one breath or half-breath I belong to myself?

As much as a pen knows what it’s writing,

or the ball can guess where it’s going next. — Rumi



The Labyrinth is a familiar symbol. Its enigmatic presence has left footprints that fade back into the beginning of the human story. Its origins and its purpose have been rich fodder for research and speculation.

I don’t pretend to know the truth of its tale, but see the archetypal labyrinth as apt visual shorthand for the map of a life, and that’s how its symbolism is used in this little essay.

The many lanes of the Labyrinth are in fact only one long path that winds and twists and turns back on itself, as it explores all the territory of a life before arriving at its Heart.

By ‘Heart’ I mean the natural essence of the ‘walker’ of the Labyrinth – beyond both conception and perception – the unknowable and ineffable awareness we nevertheless recognize as our changeless Being.

As an artisan, I call this path the Via Creativa, but please don’t think I refer to any kind of laid-down, mapped-out path.

The path is a process, and the process creates the path. It is the Via Creativa itself that teaches me how to make art and live Life.

I see the Via Creativa like this: As an impersonal energetic continuum, one enters the Labyrinth called Life, again and again, time without end. The journey is always to the Heart, always into remembrance of what one actually is. The process is Life’s exploration of the infinity of ways it can experience itself as form and emptiness, and return to home base.

(Which, paradoxically, it never left!)

We are formed and framed by genetic and environmental factors. These are the ingredients that fuel the process. They are the ‘what-is’ of this life. They will unfold us as we walk the Labyrinth, and like it or not, we will find Heart’s song within them and nowhere else.

As a child, what was the activity that you could have done ‘forever’? That brought joy and wonderment? That you leapt out of bed to get on with? The key to your path will be found in your answer.

The unique, one-off path unlocked by that answer will be juicy and wholesome, will see us rise in the morning eager to meet the day’s work. We may or may not be successful in the eyes of the world, and it may or may not be a direct hit on the Heart of the Labyrinth, but we’ll be conscious of at-one-ment with the Via Creativa – at least for a while.

If the juice dries up, we can be sure a dead-end is looming; we must change course. But which way to go?

Perhaps we explore a dozen scenarios and possibilities but remain confused. The solution is simple, but the last thing we wish to hear: We must stop. Sit down. Breathe in and breathe out. Notice now. Touch this. Be fully here. Return to Life’s pure presence. And wait.

Waiting withers the will. Waiting opens a chink in the armour of the supposed separate ‘self’ with its visions and versions of a glorious personal future. It won’t be happy – be assured it will complain bitterly!

Waiting welcomes Grace. Yet contrary to what we might have been taught, Grace isn’t always sweet-ness and light. Grace is innocent and totally amoral. It does whatever it must do in the service of the compassionate Heart.

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To read the entire article you will have to subscribe to One The Magazine:

http://www.onethemagazine.com/blog/2013/06/25/on-labyrinths-grace-and-the-via-creativa/#.UdRa2vkWITM

I know, I'm very sneaky.



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Pay attention to the alchemy happening in your life

by Jerry Katz

The circles of people to which we belong are vessels. Those in which your deepest nature is most freely and creatively expressed are those within which you must be most responsible. Responsibility means right action. We know what wrong action looks like, often abuse. Consider that lack of action, and under-action, may very well be considered wrong action.

The other thing I want to say is that when aspects of your life find you contracting, resisting, disliking, or withdrawing, that you resort to the vessel or vessels that hold you most truthfully. How to make such resort is something you should already intuitively know or be close to knowing.

If such resort turns nothing up in any kind of timely fashion, then it helps to learn some psychological way to dissolve one's resistances. If resistance remains and a task you hate still has to be done, you're certainly entitled to complain that doing the task sucks.

Meanwhile, you may find that working through resistance somehow purifies the resistance and thereby purifies the vessels.

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Philip posted this in the Nonduality Highlights Facebook group:

Nonduality 101
Nonduality in a Nutshell
By Prem Daas

1. Nonduality means there is no duality. There is only one reality. There is only one life. There is variety and difference in appearance, in name and form, but no separation anywhere. Everything is made up of the same one thing; consciousness, spirit, energy; whatever you want to call it. This realization doesn’t negate duality, it embraces duality. It is seen that everything is appearing and disappearing in this one present awareness, which is always and already here and now.

2. There is no separate self. Seeing that there is no separate self means that when you look within, you don’t find a person inside. Awareness is aware of thoughts, feelings, and sensations, but awareness never comes across a separate little person living inside the body. As Ramana Maharshi said, “If you open a radio, you don’t find anyone in there speaking. The same is with the body; if you open it up, you don’t find someone inside.”

3. There is doing, but no doer. Thoughts appear, but you can’t find a thinker. Feelings arise, but you can’t find a feeler. Doing happens, but you can’t find a doer. You may find a sense of a separate self, but that is only a sense and not an actuality. There is no owner to be found. If you find a thought that says, “I am the owner. I am the doer,” then it must be seen immediately that these are only thoughts as well and you can’t find an owner for these thoughts, either. There is no one behind thought. There is no one behind awareness.

4. Everything is happening all by Itself. Since we can’t find a doer, then it must be recognized that life is simply happening all by itself. You could say that this life shows signs of creativity and intelligence, but again, there is no separate someone who is intelligent and creative behind the scenes doing the doing, it is just part of the fabric and expression of this one life. Sometimes it is said that God is the doer, but do we ever find a God that is separate from our self? As Rumi said, “When you find God, you find your self and when you find your self, you find God.” God and Self are one and the same. This is the end of I and other, of you and me, and then only This remains. This never came and This never left; it is always and already here and now.

5. All there is, is This. Oneness is everything, Oneness does everything. This is the absolute appearing as the relative. This is the impersonal appearing as the personal. This is energy appearing as matter. This is formlessness appearing as form. This is emptiness appearing as fullness. This is spirit appearing as creation. This is the unmanifest appearing as manifestation. You open your eyes in the morning and awareness is aware of only one thing; life. This life could be said to be an appearance which is both real and unreal at the same time. Scientists have looked deeply into matter and ultimately what they find is no-thing. This is no-thing appearing as everything.

6. You are awareness without the you. Awareness is prior to everything. If awareness were not present first, then nothing would be perceived. Awareness is the substratum of every experience. Consciousness is always changing its shape, form, and expression and awareness is the only thing that is aware of that play of being. However, the objects of awareness are not separate from awareness, as they are appearing and disappearing within this vast space-like awareness, which is always and already present. This awareness is impersonal and no self can be found behind awareness. The person is not aware, awareness is aware of the person. The ego is not aware, awareness is aware of the ego. Changeless awareness is aware of changeful consciousness and this seemingly dualistic play make up the two sides of the one coin of Being.

7. These are only thoughts about Nonduality. Thoughts, at best, can only point awareness back to itself, consciousness back to itself, beingness back to itself. Understanding isn’t realization and realization isn’t liberation. The mind is always telling a story about the me; the me-story. But what is aware of the me-story? Only awareness is aware. That is why Nonduality as a belief system or religion isn’t the end of the journey and isn’t enough to exhaust the spiritual seeker. It’s unsatisfactory. Nonduality must become your direct experience and living reality. The sense of separation must truly and authentically end and disappear. Then it is seen by no one that all there is is this; nothing appearing as everything. You are Freedom itself.
Group: NDhighlights Message: 4964 From: Gloria Lee Date: 2013-07-05
Subject: #4964 - Thursday, July 4, 2013 - Editor: Gloria Lee

#4964 - Thursday,В July 4, 2013 - Editor: Gloria Lee
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Celebrate true freedom. Freedom from ignorance and hate.
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photo via Lois P. Jones on Facebook
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Only here - in this land of freedom, lies the flower of life: Love. Only here,
can love be. And: "Without love there is no freedom: without love, freedom
is merely an idea which has no value at all."
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~J Krishnamurti
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Matters not what you comprehend, believe, understand, know - or think you
know. Only, through moment-to-moment awareness of Self, is there
freedom.

via Sai BraceВ on Facebook
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Our thoughts are on Mandela these days as he nears the end of his life.
Every time I hear his name I think about this exchange betweenВ 
former US President Bill Clinton and Mandela.
В 
"That was pretty smart of you to have your jailers come to the
Inauguration and all of that, but let me ask you something." I said, "Didn't
you really hate them for what they did?"
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He said, "Oh, yeah, I hated them for a long time." He said, "I stayed alive
on hate for 12 years. I broke rocks every day, and I stayed alive on hate."
And he said, "They took a lot away from me. They took me away from my
wife, and it subsequently destroyed my marriage. They took me away from
seeing my children grow up. They abused me mentally and physically. And
one day," he said, "I realized they could take it all except my mind and my
heart."
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He said, "Those things I would have to give to them, and I simply decided
not to give them away."
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And so – so I said to him, I said, "Well, what about when you were getting
out of prison?" I said, "The day you got out of prison in 1990, it was
Sunday morning, and I got my daughter up early in the morning, and I took
her down to the kitchen, and I turned on the television, and she was just a
little girl then, and I sat her up on the kitchen counter. And I said,
'Chelsea, I want you to watch this. This is one of the most important things
you'll ever see in your life.' "
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And I said, "I watched you walk down that dirt road to freedom." I said,
"Now, when you were walking down there, and you realized how long you had
been in their prison, didn't you hate them then? Didn't you feel some
hatred?" He said, "Yes, I did a little bit." He said, "I felt that." And he
said, "Frankly, I was kind of afraid, too, because I hadn't been free in so
long."
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But he said, "As I felt the anger rising up, I thought to myself, 'They have
already had you for 27 years. And if you keep hating them, they'll have you
again.' And I said, 'I want to be free. And so I let it go. I let it go."
via Gloria TiedeВ on Facebook

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В 
The world will never have peace until we all realize every being/organism
on this planet has the right to exist. Not only do all people deserve to exist,
but thrive.
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I have friends who are vegan, animal activist and will say things like "close
the borders, get rid of the damn Mexicans, if they are here illegally and
they are in this country, they don't deserve to survive. They are not my
problem, they broke the law, get rid of them." To me this is just complete
ignorance, but I hold no hostility, because how many times have I been
ignorant in my life? Thousands, we all have. I used to believe poor people
were lazy, God how fucking stupid and ignorant was I? My eyes were
closed, but now I see. Maybe that's why God put me through my whole
experience with illness.
В 
I love you all, especially those with bigotry, ignorance and hatred in your
hearts. Why especially those people? Because I have been you, I am you at
times and I know you need love most of all.
В 
I challenge you to explore thoughts that might not be from your higher
power. Put your hand on your heart and say a belief like "Mexican illegals
are not my problem, they are breaking they law, if they die, they die." How
does your body feel, how does your heart feel, bet not too good. Exploring
our thoughts is how we heal the world, not listening blindly to group
messages of hate. I invite everybody to explore your thoughts and notice if
they bring peace to your body and heart. If they don't, I invite you to let
them go. Peace.
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Michael Clean-Foods SageВ on Facebook

Group: NDhighlights Message: 4965 From: Jerry Katz Date: 2013-07-06
Subject: #4965 - Friday, July 5, 2013 - Editor: Jerry Katz
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If you live near Auroville in southern India, or are planning to visit, I highly recommend joining a new meetup group based in Auroville, simply called the Auroville Nondual Meetup Group. It is founded by residents Didier Weiss and Anamika. Here is the description of the group:


We have just started and are finding our way around. Please join us in what could become a fun and interesting place to meet and hang out.

Nonduality is about the philosophical, spiritual, scientific but mainly experiential understanding of non-separation and fundamental intrinsic oneness.

We are passionate about the journey, the exploration of the nature of awareness, the essence of Life from which all arises and subsides.

The purpose of the group is to bring together all those drawn towards self-discovery and to make it easy to be in contact with others on the same journey.

Please join us even if you are a casual visitor in our area. It would give a chance for like-minded people to connect with you at your next visit.

Welcome on board!


Join and explore more at http://www.meetup.com/Auroville-Nondual-Meetup-Group/


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Robert Wolfe

Can you relax somewhere comfortably, with no plan, no agenda, no timetable, and with no trace of desire to be in any other place or to do any other thing? Can you be free entirely of the sense of awaiting anything whatsoever? Can you die peacefully and lastingly into the moment of eternity? That is the moment, the limitless moment, where there is freedom from mortal fear.

You will not find yourself in this relaxed position until there is a natural order in your life. And you will not be open to the unfolding of this order until you perceive unequivocally the implications of your true identity.

The truth of your identity is to be found in solitude…stillness…emptiness. It is to be found in the moment from which nothing is separable.


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What Robert Wolfe says is very much echoed in Vicki Woodyard's new book which is not yet published but which I read and like very much. It consists of conversations between her and Peter. If anything it is perhaps about resting, the kind of resting Robert speaks of in his first paragraph. A beautiful book.

And who is Peter? you ask. Peter started the first nonduality website, sentient.org (use the wayback machine to see past issues:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050208190846/http://www.sentient.org/noscript.html)

He started his site in 1992 as a bulletin board and inspired my own work in making nonduality available to the people. When Peter became seriously ill with strokes he came to see life and spirituality in a new way.

The book is about that way. It's full of humor and a vast simple wisdom that is so refreshing and needed in our current culture of nonduality. Vicki and Peter are a pair for the ages.

You'll be hearing more about Vicki's new book in upcoming issues. Meanwhile, here's her Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/vicki.woodyard?fref=ts
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Jerry excerpted this article by Joan Tollifson in May, 2012, and it incited a burst of research and reading of her writing by me, because I was so moved by this particular piece.

It's almost too simple and direct, you know. It's so clear that you can barely believe what it's saying. And of course, these topics are already ones which we nonduality geeks are very accustomed to (and in case you were wondering, if you're reading this now, you're a nonduality geek).

Wandering through Joan Tollifson's website and reading her books is a nice treat. I've come to think of her as the heiress apparent to Pema ChГѓВΆdrГѓВΆn's legacy of writing terribly clean, lucid insight about the vicissitudes of life and our spiritual search. And like me, she's a strong proponent of dropping your story to resolve anxiety about your life situation or your own enlightenment. Dropping your story, or at least not taking it so bloody seriously!

Dustin

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Resting in the Happening of this Moment: Being What You Cannot Not Be

by Joan Tollifson

http://www.joantollifson.com/writing12.html


Spiritual practice (the pathless path from here to here) boils down to something very simple. Being present, awake, open. Resting in the simplicity of what is. Being what we cannot not be: the happening of this moment, just as it is.

Even after all these years of meditation and awakening and writing books and holding meetings about nonduality, I still find myself sometimes seemingly not resting and opening, but instead resisting the happening of this moment and trying to run away from that primal sense of yukiness, unease, restlessness, discontent, anxiety, loneliness, depression, uncertainty, emptiness – however you want to characterize it. Suddenly I’m swept up in some version of the story that I’m all alone in a meaningless void, that I’ve ruined my life. There is the vague and disturbing sense that I’m drowning in some horrible ickiness. I rush to the bookcases looking for the right spiritual book, or I turn on the TV and begin mindlessly surfing through the channels, or I get on the internet and begin reading articles about things I don’t even care about. Or I’m compulsively biting my fingers and I feel more and more tightly knotted up inside in a conflict between the intense desire to stop biting and the overwhelming urge to continue. I feel frozen and stuck in a painful groove that I can’t escape, desperately seeking a way out.

Eventually, it occurs to me to stop trying to do (or not do) anything, to give up the search for a solution or a distraction, to simply be present, to allow everything to be just exactly as it is. Suddenly it becomes possible to completely surrender to the actuality of Here / Now, to resist nothing, not even the compulsive biting of my fingers if that is what is happening. Instantly, I feel the heart open. This is the end of grasping and seeking, the end of resisting and avoiding, the end of trying to fix myself and be somebody else, the end of trying to figure it all out or get the right conceptual map nailed down. This is not knowing anything and not needing to know. Suddenly there is no problem anymore. There is no me. There is only this undivided, spacious presence that includes everything, just as it is. Everything is okay, even fingerbiting or feelings of uneasiness or anxiety. Nothing needs to be other than how it is, and when there is complete openness to how it is, I find it is no particular way at all. Everything is moving and changing and dissolving. There is a huge sense of relief. The problem was imaginary.

And really, this is all there is to it. It all boils down to the simplicity of what is. Being here now, being present, being awake, simply being.

Read the entire article here:

http://www.joantollifson.com/writing12.html

 


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GIANT TRIPLE ISSUE!!!!

Three views of reality are featured: that there is one reality, that there are three aspects of the one reality, and that no such realities can be found.

It makes me want to take a couple tylenols and lay down.



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http://www.speakingtree.in/public/spiritual-blogs/seekers/philosophy/selfknowledge-cannot-be-attained-by-study-of-the-vedas-and

Self-knowledge cannot be attained by study of the Vedas

By: Santthoshkumaar Kumaar
on Jul 08, 2013


Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana cannot be attained by study of the Vedas and intellectual understanding or by bookish knowledge. Therefore,there is no use of studying the Vedas and other scriptures in order to acquire the non-dual wisdom. That is why Buddha rejected the scriptures, and even Sri, Sankara indicated that, the ultimate truth lies beyond religion, concept of God and scriptures.

There is only one Reality to be known, the same for all seekers, but the ways to it, are hidden by the religion. Self-discovery is the only way, towards non-dual Absolute without any religious doctrines, which will help the seekers to unfold the mystery of the illusion in which we all are searching the truth of our true existence.

The beliefs of god, religion, yoga are based on the false self, is nothing to do with the mental (inner) journey.

The religious, rituals, worships, prayers god and guru glorification may be useful in the practical life within the practical world, for those who believes in the birth, life, death and the world as reality, but they are not useful tools in realizing the ultimate truth. On the base of consciousness [soul] as self, everything other than the consciousness is a mere mirage. Thus, man and his experience of the world and his belief of god and religion are part and parcel of the mirage created out of consciousness.

When Sri,Sankara says the world is an illusion, it includes birth, life and death, which happens within the world. Thus seekers main aim is to mentally trace the formless substance of the illusion, which is also the witness of the illusion. The formless substance and witness of the illusion [world] is the Ataman, and this Ataman itself is Brahman. This Brahman cannot be attained by indulging in egocentric religious orthodoxies. The knower of Brahman is Brahmin not the Brahmin who indulges in priest craft, which leads one to utter darkness as per Yajur Veda.

Brahmin is the one who has realized the Brahman [ultimate truth] and helps fellow seekers towards inner path. The one who knows Brahman knows his body and his experience of the world are mere illusion and also he knows his body and his experience of the world are also as the soul,which is present in the form of consciousness, which is Brahman. Thus, the religious orthodoxy which crafted the body based theories will lead one to hallucinated Moksha. But real Moksha or freedom is possible only through nondual wisdom.

Thus it is necessary to follow the path of Brahman not the path of the orthodoxy. Only by dropping all the accumulated orthodox crafted baggage, one has to move forward to reach the non-dual destination in lesser time and effort.


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A summary of the teachings of Aziz Kristof

According to Aziz Kristof, that which we refer to by the phrase “I AM” consists of three basic aspects. These three basic aspects are:

1. Consciousness

2. Being

3. The Heart

And that which we refer to by the word “Enlightenment” is the shifting of the center of identity to one of the three basic aspects of I AM.

From the above follows that there are three forms of Enlightenment. These are:

1. Enlightenment to the State of Presence.
– This occurs when the center of identity shifts to consciousness.

2. Enlightenment to the Absolute State.
– This occurs when the center of identity shifts to Being.

3. Enlightenment to the Heart.
– This occurs when the center of identity shifts to the Heart.

Until now, no spiritual tradition has made a clear distinction between these three types of Enlightenment. And so after millennia of spiritual teachings, the spiritual path remains uncharted territory.


Let us now look at the three types of Enlightenment in more detail, beginning with Enlightenment to the State of Presence.

We start out on the spiritual path unaware of our true nature. The ‘image’ we have of ourselves is what we identify with as being ‘Me.’ This identification with the self-concept is a natural and necessary step in the evolution of consciousness. The evolution of consciousness is an evolution which is conscious of itself. The self-concept serves as a bridge between the subconscious animal state and the fully conscious state. First we need to develop self-referring intelligence, which is the ego, before we are able to take the next step. Otherwise we would not want to know, nor be able to appreciate, who we are in a deeper sense.

If an animal would suddenly get an ego, this would be an Enlightenment experience for the animal. That would be the first shift for the animal from its subconscious state to becoming aware of itself. The subconscious state is like a dream state. In a dream, there is no clear self-awareness; the subject’s awareness is completely objectified into the dream story. Humans, in their semi-conscious state, are on the one hand conscious enough to have a sense of self, while on the other hand not conscious enough to realize what is behind this sense of self. This causes us to search for our true identity.

Some spiritual traditions only teach discovering the ‘no-self,’ and therefore portray the ego as something negative. The spiritual path, however, is about self-awareness. So essentially the ego plays a positive role on the spiritual path. However, because we completely identify with this self-concept, we become imprisoned in our egocentric concepts and beliefs.

But there is a way to free ourselves from this prison of the mind. The mind has in its very essence the ability to create a self-conscious impulse. Thanks to this self-conscious impulse we are able to briefly return from being lost in the mind to being aware in the now. We use this ability as a pathway from the mind to pure consciousness.

We have to cultivate these self-conscious impulses so that they become a steady flow of attention. By adhering to our task of continuously maintaining this awareness, we begin the process of crystallizing attention. When attention is crystallized, awareness experiences itself beyond thoughts and concepts. This is why most spiritual traditions work with the cultivation of mindfulness.

In our practice we have to focus on the original point where the self-conscious impulse is not yet experienced as an object outside of ourselves, but is experienced in itself. The most direct and powerful way to practice this is through self-remembrance. We practice self-remembrance by continuously looking inward, turning our attention to the center of attention itself, in the middle of the head, as if we are looking inward with our eyes at the back of the skull. In this way we energetically anchor ourselves in the now.

Once we experience the self-conscious impulse as subject and not object, consciousness becomes awakened. At this point mindfulness experiences itself without any object. Attention which is crystallized becomes self-aware. It becomes one with itself.

Now we have a real center of awareness and we are not lost in the mind anymore. We have (partly) awakened to our true nature; we recognized the essence of consciousness. We experience that every phenomenon appears and disappears in consciousness. And we are consciousness. Everything is recognized as the self.

When the State of Presence is stabilized, it loses its crystallized character. It becomes like a space of awareness. Without holding on to it, one simply remains in this field of pure consciousness.

The State of Presence is referred to by some teachers in Advaita Vedanta by the slogan “Consciousness is all there is and I am THAT.” In Hinduism they call the State of Presence ‘Atman.’ In Zen Buddhism the ox (in the ox herding pictures) symbolizes the State of Presence.

In contemporary Tibetan Buddhism the State of Presence is referred to as ‘Rigpa,’ and they depict it as something that endures after the death of the body. The State of Presence does not endure after death, because consciousness manifests through brain activity; it needs a physical body to manifest. This is the reason why there is no consciousness in the deep sleep state, when there is almost no brain activity. The natural location of the State of Presence is in the middle of the headspace, behind the ‘third eye.’

Every type of Enlightenment normally has three phases; first the shift into the State, then the stabilization of the State and then integration of the State. The first shift is sudden, the other phases are gradual. It very seldom occurs that the first shift is accompanied by sudden stabilization.


Let’s now move on to the second type of Enlightenment: Enlightenment to the Absolute State.

As we have just seen, consciousness plays a key role in the Enlightenment process. But is consciousness truly ‘all there is?’

According to Buddhism, consciousness is one of the five skandhas. These skandhas are supposed to be five (impermanent) aggregates that constitute all individual experience. And suffering arises when one completely identifies with (one of) these skandhas, because clinging to anything impermanent is essentially suffering.

It is true that consciousness is impermanent -- it can vanish. It vanishes every night when we get into the deep sleep state. So what is Nirvana, which is beyond suffering, really about? It cannot only be about consciousness! The Nirvana that the Buddha realized must exist beyond consciousness, according to his own teachings.

When the mind awakens to its true nature, the State of Presence is realized. But when one awakens to the true nature of Presence itself, the Unmanifested is realized. The Unmanifested is also called “Being” or “the Absolute.” Being is the source from which Presence arises and is prior to Presence. In Buddhism the term “Emptiness” is used for Being.

Some teachers call ‘pure consciousness without content’ Emptiness, as if it were equivalent to what is meant by Emptiness in authentic Zen Buddhism. This is another example of the confusion caused by ignorance about the different forms of Enlightenment.

Before consciousness arises, there already is a ‘presence.’ What is present is the absence of consciousness. The term absence does not mean there is nothing present. ‘Nothing’ is just a concept. In truth ‘nothing’ does not exist, because ‘the absence of consciousness’ is always present. What is conceptualized as ‘nothing’ is uncreated energy, which is pure ‘is-ness.’ That’s why we call it ‘Being,’ because it IS beyond ‘is’ or ‘is not.’

The only way to enter the Absolute is through surrendering. Unlike the active-will practice that leads to the State of Presence, realizing the Absolute takes surrendering. One must let go of the center of Presence into the non-Presence of the Absolute, which has no center.

The practice of Shikantaza (sitting meditation), breathing into the belly where one drops Presence to the hara area (lower belly area), serves this purpose. The center of Presence is in the headspace, but the hara is the gateway to the Absolute. One can only really do Shikantaza after having attained the State of Presence, otherwise it would be difficult staying fully present when coming to the precipice of the non-Presence.

After exerting ourselves fully in trying to cast off the will (inherent in Presence), we become ready to receive Grace, which responds to our surrender. Only by way of Grace (because the will cannot transcend itself) can we shift into the Absolute State. Grace which comes in the form of transmission. This transmission can come from an Enlightened teacher who is in the Absolute State or directly from the Beyond.

In the shift to the Absolute, consciousness becomes absorbed into that which is prior to consciousness. This is the realization the Buddha experienced, which he named reaching Nirvana. This experience is like getting into a deep sleep state while staying completely awake. One is completely present and completely absent. There is no movement, only absolute stillness exists in this State. Absolute stillness, which is the presence of Being. And the presence of Being is the absence of consciousness.

Through the conscious letting go of our presence into the Absolute (which is the absence of consciousness) we become absent, in other words, absorbed in reality; One with the Universe. After this shift there is no longer any center; we experience ‘non-abidance.’ In the Absolute State all is finally embraced. Few seekers actually reach the Absolute State, for it is the Ultimate.

Because Advaita Vedanta is the tradition of Grace, some Advaita teachers don’t emphasize or even discourage spiritual practices. This is because their tradition is based on transmission, where a seeker who is ripe for it gets shifted into another State by the energy of a Master who is in that State himself, or receives Grace directly from the Beyond. In an effort after meaning for what happens in their tradition, they conclude that practice is unnecessary and all happens only through Grace.

The theoretical framework behind their extreme, non-dualistic view is formed by applying linear logic to the experience of the dimensions beyond the ego; the “no self” experience. Because they realized “no self,” they believe there is no ‘personal doer’ and so one cannot do anything oneself to reach Enlightenment. Reality itself, however, is beyond linear logic. The multi-dimensional reality of I AM holds the possibility for the reality of the personal within the heart of the universal.


Now we will look at the third form of Enlightenment; Enlightenment to the Heart.

After we have stabilized the Absolute State, the wisdom of the Unmanifested will not let us stay forever in the detached state of disidentification. The Unmanifested has to encounter the reality of its own manifestation. This encounter takes place when the heart opens. Opening the center of the Heart entails energy work into the heart area, placing your hands on your heart and deeply connecting with it. Prayer is also an important part of connecting with the Heart.

When we shift to the Heart, we reach a place beyond identification and disidentification. ‘Heart’ means ‘central point.’ The Heart is the middle point where the two polarities, the manifested (the self) and the Unmanifested (the no-self), meet and we experience true wholeness. This meeting can take place in the Heart, because the Heart rises above these polarities, for the Heart is part of the Ultimate.

The Ultimate, which is God, exists as a union of the Absolute and the Heart. The Being side of God is the Absolute and the Divine side of God is the Heart. The Divine is the heart of Emptiness. The Heart is the dimension of Love and Grace.

Now we come to the final part of our spiritual seeking. That which has been searching for its true self can now be discovered.

The spiritual traditions of the past do not depict all sides of reality accurately. The teaching of no-self is not a dogma. The idea that ‘nobody’ becomes Enlightened is true from one perspective but false from another perspective. Enlightenment is beyond the concept of ‘self’ and ‘no-self.’

What is the true answer to the question: Who am I? Is the answer: the ego? Or consciousness? Or Emptiness? Searching for our true self we come across different dimensions of what we are. But who is the one who is experiencing these dimensions, who is the one searching for its true self? Hidden within all of what we are is the essence of our unique identity. Aziz calls it the Soul. Consciousness and Emptiness are impersonal and universal, but the Soul is personal.

The Soul exists in the Heart, and can only recognize itself in a clear way after the realization of Presence and the Absolute. Some mystics have gone directly to the Heart without first realizing Presence and the Absolute, but although they experienced the Soul, their realization lacked the clarity that one who already realized Presence and the Absolute would have had. Only when water is still can it clearly mirror your true face.

Now that the Heart center is open, we experience that the most direct and personal experience of the self is in the Heart. We become aware of the Soul. Inherent in the Soul is a profound sensitivity which comes from the Heart. The Heart is universal, but extends into an individual expression which we call the Soul. Because of this we are one with I AM but also separate from I AM. The Soul is what experiences oneness and separation. Experiencing oneness is only accessible if one can also experience separation.

The Soul is not the I AM. The Soul is the I AM seeing itself as a Soul. Through this seeing, a separation between the I AM and itself arises. I AM meets itself through seeing itself as a Soul. And every Soul is a unique angle of perception of I AM.

Although each Soul has its own unique destiny in relation to its own (genetic) blueprint, some self-determining energy is inherent in each Soul. The universe creates a human being and the human being responds to the universe; it is a living, interactive process. Quantum physics discovered that when a particle is perceived by us, the particle is changed by that very observation. Perception is an energy which changes the reality of that which is perceived. The perceiver and the perceived both affect each other. In the same way the Soul co-operates with
I AM in the realization of I AM.

This summary is a description of the teachings of Aziz Kristof in my own words.
© Steven van der Hut
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The following is from Greg Goode's Emptiness group on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/emptinesses


Greetings to all the new members of the Emptiness group!!

You may or may not be familiar with the emptiness teachings. They are a kind of nondual approach that doesn't reduce everything to sameness or any single substance that supports everything.

You can use these teachings with or without Buddhism. The powerful emptiness meditations and realizations can be used with a wide variety of spiritual paths. We define "emptiness" in a very broad way as "essencelessness" or "naturelessness." This happens to allow Buddhist and non-Buddhist approaches. Everything from Theravada Buddhism to literary criticism to modern physics can be a teaching. This variety is represented in the gallery above! (See the About page and the Files section too.)

According to these approaches, emptiness is not the same thing as Consciousness or Awareness or Being or any other underlying global basis for things. In the emptiness approaches, we look for any such underlying support or basis of things, we simply do not find it. There is a wonderful lightness and freedom in this.

Even a simple apple cannot be found apart from pieces, parts, labels, concepts, or relations to other things. An apple simply has no nature. Its "no nature" is its mode of existence.

The emptiness teachings are fond of paradox, irony, humor, and surprising reversals. This is why it's sometimes said that this very lack of nature is the nature of things. This naturelessness cannot be pinned down, yet it has the flavor of openness, love, joy, care, richness, enthusiasm, and engagement with the delightful variety of things and sentient beings.

Here are some links to readings and a few videos. It is a huge field, and variety is one of its great virtues.

So sit back, read, learn, discuss, realize and enjoy!

FROM A BUDDHIST PERSPECTIVE:

Intro to the Emptiness Teachings:
http://emptiness.co/intro

If you are more used to the Awareness teachings:
http://emptiness.co/adv_to_empt

From the Dalai Lama:
http://www.dalailama.com/news/post/762-the-essence-of-emptiness

From the Encyclopedia Britannica:
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/355806/Madhyamika

From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhyamaka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunyata

Five Good Buddhist Books (in our Files section):
https://www.facebook.com/groups/emptinesses/doc/278607918913253/

WESTERN CRITIQUES OF ESSENCE:

Death and Furniture (in our Files section):
https://www.facebook.com/groups/emptinesses/422354651205245/

Five Good Western Books (in our Files section):
https://www.facebook.com/groups/emptinesses/doc/278607178913327/

Pyrrho and Pyrrhonism (from the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy):
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pyrrho/

VIDEOS (Buddhist and Western):

Jeffrey Hopkins on Subtle Impermanence:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wJ4dior8js

Richard Rorty on Truth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzynRPP9XkY

Robert Anton Wilson on "is"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCIqFAdI6eI

Robert Anton Wilson freestyling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0uImc27Ico
Group: NDhighlights Message: 4968 From: Jerry Katz Date: 2013-07-10
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The following was the introduction to the previous Highlights issue:

>GIANT TRIPLE ISSUE!!!!
>
> Three views of reality are featured: that there is one reality, that there are three aspects of the one reality, and that no such realities can be found.
>
> It makes me want to take a couple tylenols and lay down.

I received several interesting comments. One of them, posted to Nonduality Salon, follows:

T: JEEZUz !

Jerry my good man!

Fer Kerist's Sake.

I feel for you.

You might even smoke a bowl.

Now I know why they burnt the library in Alexandria all those years ago.

And why Socrates never wanted to write anything down.

Its a effing stinking swamp!

I cut the rest without so much as a by your leave.

Huge Snipperage of ordure!

With respect.

Any time you want a pillow.

:)

Tboni

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Colin Drake revisits Alain de Botton's "10 commandments for virtuous atheists" from the viewpoint of awareness...


Awakening and Ethics

by Colin Drake

‘And He who defines his conduct by ethics imprisons his song-bird in a cage’

--Kahlil Gibran from the chapter on religion in The Prophet.

‘Once The Way is lost then virtue (needs to be cultivated) ,
Virtue lost then compassion, after that morality,
When lost there’s etiquette, the husk of all good faith.’
--Tao Te Ching verse 38.

‘The Way brings forth virtue’ (v.51)
‘Cultivate The Way and your virtue will be genuine’ (v.54)

All religions try to impose a moral code on their followers, some with the aim of preventing them from ‘sinning’ and others as aids to awakening. The religions ‘of the book’ have the ten commandments plus injunctions from the Torah, Jesus and Mohammed. Hinduism has the various rules from the Vedas, plus the Yamas and Niyamas - the ethical precepts set forth in Patanjali's Yoga Sutras as the first and second of the eight limbs of yoga, and various other rules stipulated by the many different sects. Whereas, Buddhism suggests the Noble Eightfold Path as the means to attain Nirvana. Now the writer, philosopher and pillar of the Fourth Estate, Alain de Botton, has just published a set of 10 commandments for virtuous atheists, which are designed to make for a more humane society. His list is as follows:

1. Resilience: Keeping going even when things are looking dark.

2. Empathy: The capacity to connect imaginatively with the sufferings and unique experiences of another person.

3. Patience: We should grow calmer and more forgiving by being more realistic about how things actually happen.

4. Sacrifice: We won't ever manage to raise a family, love someone else or save the planet if we don't keep up with the art of sacrifice.

5. Politeness: Politeness is closely linked to tolerance, -the capacity to live alongside people whom one will never agree with, but at the same time, cannot avoid.

6. Humour: Like anger, humour springs from disappointment, but it is disappointment optimally channelled.

7. Self-awareness: To know oneself is to try not to blame others for one's troubles and moods; to have a sense of what's going on inside oneself, and what actually belongs to the world.

8. Forgiveness: It's recognising that living with others is not possible without excusing errors.

9. Hope: Pessimism is not necessarily deep, nor optimism shallow.

10. Confidence: Confidence is not arrogance - rather, it is based on a constant awareness of how short life is and how little we will ultimately lose from risking everything.1

Whilst this is a very worthy list is it actually possible to develop these attributes by force of will alone? And if one attempts this how does this affect one’s spontaneity and joie de vivre? It seems to me that, while certain rules are obviously necessary to maintain a civilized society, to actually attempt to create the ‘virtuous man’ without some degree of awakening taking place is an impossible task.

This is especially true if one defines oneself as a separate object in a universe of such, for then one tends to treat others as objects (for that is what one thinks they are!), the results of which we can see quite clearly in the world around us. Whereas, if one discovers the constant conscious subjective presence, Pure Awareness, that we all are then this problem vanishes. This is easy to do by directly investigating our moment-to-moment experience, see the appendix, after which we see others as of the same essence as ourselves. This directly leads to treating all alike and greatly enhances our ability to manifest the ‘virtues’:

1. Resilience: Pure Awareness is unaffected by its environment and thus no resilience is required, or you could say resilience comes naturally.

2. Empathy: One can only display true empathy when one sees the other as oneself.

3. Patience: When one is identified with Pure Awareness then there is no separate self to become impatient.

4. Sacrifice: Who is sacrificing what? We are all manifestations of the one Consciousness and thus any thing done for ‘another’ is done for ourselves.

5. Politeness: Politeness is natural as we are not dealing with ‘others’. It is true that most will not share our viewpoint, but this leads to compassion for their unnecessary mental suffering caused by misidentifying themselves as separate objects in a universe of such.

6. Humour: Is natural when the universe is seen to be the play of Consciousness, of which we are expressions acting in the play.

7. Self-awareness: To know that one is Pure Awareness is to be aware of The Self.

8. Forgiveness: Most errors are caused by ignorance (misidentification), or lack of awareness, which is natural as this is the state of the majority of humanity. So when one is identified as Pure Awareness these errors elucidate compassion rather than blaming or judging. In this case no forgiveness is necessary.

9. Hope: When identified with Pure Awareness no hope is required, as This never needs anything to be different…

10. Confidence: When one is identified with The Self then Self-confidence is the outcome, not confidence in the imaginary small limited self but confidence in the true Self – Pure Awareness.

Thus these attributes are the outcomes of awakening, and not the prerequisites for it. This is also true for most of the rules and injunctions that are prescribed by the many different spiritual paths. So I urge you all to awaken, and to remain awake by repeated investigation, when no list of prescribed rules or codes will be necessary. Then your ‘song-bird’ can fly freely for your conduct will not be defined by ethics but by the spontaneity of The Self.

Colin Drake's books are available at http://nonduality.com/colindrake.htm
Group: NDhighlights Message: 4969 From: Gloria Lee Date: 2013-07-12
Subject: #4969 - Thursday, July 11, 2013 - Editor: Gloria Lee

#4969 - Thursday,В July 11, 2013 - Editor: Gloria Lee
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The joy which is
in Revelation
is nowhere else.
No amount of
perception
thinking
projecting
planning
doing
efforts
achieving
every will give you
that joy
that radiance
which Revelation does.
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~Swami Amar Jyoti
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The mystic dances in the sun,
hearing music others don't.
В 
"Insanity," they say, those others.
If so, it's a very gentle,
nourishing sort.
В 
~Rumi
В 

Version by Coleman Barks
"Birdsong"
via Along The Way
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All this time I've been whirling
in the space between your thoughts
while you were debating what to name
this silent wildness:
He or She? I or Thou? Particle or Wave?
Come now, be a moth, a petal,
a fountain in a sunbeam.
Be the final breath.
Just dance with me,
and dissolve.
В 
~Fred LaMotte
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В 
"Synchronicity is an ever present reality for those who have eyes to see."
В 
~Carl Jung
В 

В 
Yasar Koç Photography
В 
В 
Metempsychosis
В 

Some stories last many centuries,
others only a moment.
All alter over that lifetime like beach-glass,
grow distant and more beautiful with salt.
В 
Yet even today, to look at a tree
and ask the story Who are you? is to be transformed.
В 
There is a stage in us where each being, each thing, is a mirror.
В 
Then the bees of self pour from the hive-door,
ravenous to enter the sweetness of flowering nettles and thistle.
В 
Next comes the ringing a stone or violin or empty bucket
gives off --
the immeasurable's continuous singing,
before it goes back into story and feeling.
В 
In Borneo, there are palm trees that walk on their high roots.
Slowly, with effort, they lift one leg then another.
В 
I would like to join that stilted transmigration,
to feel my own skin vertical as theirs:
an ant-road, a highway for beetles.
В 
I would like not minding, whatever travels my heart.
To follow it all the way into leaf-form, bark-furl, root-touch,
and then keep walking, unimaginably further.
В 
В 
~from Given Sugar, Given Salt: Poems, by Jane Hirshfield
В 

В 
Joan Tollifson writes:
В 
Someone alerted me recently to an excellent interview with Eckhart Tolle
on YouTube that I would very highly recommend. ItÂ’s about 98 minutes long
– starts out with a brief bit (about 15 minutes) on a park bench with ET,
his wife Kim Eng, and the interviewer (a young man)...then moves indoors to
what I assume is ETÂ’s living room for the rest of the video with just ET and
the interviewer (and a brief appearance by ET's dog)...there is very little
from the interviewer; it is mostly ET talking the whole time. The content is
excellent, and I enjoyed seeing ET in a more informal and casual way than in
his usual talks before an audience. I love ET and consider him one of the
very best contemporary teachers. He is deeply grounded in presence and
able to illuminate the workings of the egoic mind (what obscures the truth)
with tremendous clarity, and he embodies and points eloquently and simply
to the boundlessness of aware presence, the ever-present Now. This is
excellent material:В  http://youtu.be/KopmSpe33Eg
В 
В 


Group: NDhighlights Message: 4970 From: Jerry Katz Date: 2013-07-13
Subject: #4970 - Friday, July 12, 2013 - Editor: Jerry Katz
#4970 - Friday, July 12, 2013 - Editor: Jerry Katz

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Hiphop and Non Duality

by Ascience Gnown

Hiphop doesn't exist. Show it to me. And please don't point to an album, your iTunes library, a microphone, a website etc. because we don't call that Hiphop. We have names for those things. But what can be named can be identified, it has color, shape, and place in space in reference to another object. So where is the thing that we call Hiphop. Or is it a thing at all? Is it a feeling? An experience? If so what is the experience? What drives us to label things Hiphop or not Hiphop? What is the difference between the two? Afrika Bambaataa says Hiphop is peace, love, unity, and understanding. Well where are those things? Do those qualities exist as tangible objects or are they something more subtle and tacit? All things have a beginning and an end. They have an origin, at least relatively, but did peace, love, unity and understanding have a beginning or have they existed before there was a mind to perceive them? If we entertain the latter then we have to look at what we call Hiphop as something free of coming and going, something that is free of origins and endings, free from conditions, in fact I postulate that Hiphop is freedom from conditions simply because it allows all conditions to exist. It does not fight, it does not reject, it embraces and incorporates. It becomes more whole through allowing whatever arises to arise. It freely samples the world and finds it beautiful.

Out of peace, love, unity and understanding came the elements of Hiphop. The elements are the children of Hiphop. No less Hiphop themselves and not completely Hiphop by themselves they were birthed to teach us about Hiphop and the possibilities of finding peace, love, unity and understanding within, between and as all things. This relationship as nature and manifestation are what give Hiphop the status as nondual. It is the ground out of which the elements arise and it is the end goal for all those that practice it and it is everything in-between no matter how you practice it. Nothing is separate from it no matter how foreign to peace, love, unity and understanding it seems. When Chief Keef and Mos Def create a song they do with the same underlying intention whether they know it or not; to manifest peace, love, unity and understanding. All seeking is seeking the nature of things. The only difference is a matter of knowing, of experiencing Hiphop. When one has experienced Hiphop (and knows it as ones self) then one begins to create with the intention of manifesting the qualities of Hiphop. When one doesn't know it they create with other intentions; money, fame, power, fear, anger. The only difference is in knowing. All spiritual paths know this to be the end goal of all seeking; that they are what they seek and what they fundamentally are is peace, love etc.

So then why do most people associate Hiphop with music and entertainment? Well aside from conditioning, most people don't seek the source of Hiphop when interacting with the elements. They only go deep enough to validate what their ego seeks; to be bigger, to be separate, to be the greatest among all. Some go deeper and utilize the elements to bring about sociopolitical awareness and change. When ones intention becomes focused on these things then the source is missed when the source is the award itself. This is the reason for Hiphop Alive; To begin to see the sacredness of what we call Hiphop and all of its elements so that they can teach us about how we and how all things truly exist. Many believe this line of thinking to be unnecessary, too much, over the top without once questioning their relationship with Hiphop and how deep it could possibly go. You're likely to see comments about this line of thinking that say this is bullshit, that Hiphop began in 1973 with a name. But I urge all that are serious about Hiphop to question the elements and when they began. What were the precursors to the music, art, dance, fashion etc.? These things didn't arise on their own or out of nowhere. They had ancestors and other forms that came before that had the same intention; To awaken self and others to a greater existence that has no origin. They attempted to explain and manifest the unexplainable because it was a nagging sensation. A calling to be more whole and to feel more like a part of the family of things. When we say Hiphop began in the Bronx as a culture birthed from poverty and marginalization what do you think the opposite of those things are? What were they seeking? What is the underlying motivation of someone who is impoverished or doesn't feel like they have a voice? It is to be alive and to proclaim their aliveness to the world. It is to not be silenced. It is to make a noise loud enough that reaches to the depths of self and the universe that says I am here and I am worthy to be here. It is the voice of spirit saying I will not be silenced. I will grow even in the worst of conditions and I will adapt to whatever situation you place me in. The evolution of all things can't be stopped. Spirit cannot be denied because it knows no boundaries. It's sole intention is to know itself through form and to report its findings to the formless in order to find a way to next time manifest even more fully! This is how I experience Hiphop. Every record I dig for is another way of experiencing my own fragmented experience of humanity. Every rhyme I write is another way of working out the kinks of my cognition in order to see more clearly how I and all things exist. Every Graf piece I create is to be free from the lies of conformity to form. Every move of a bboy is to experience space in as many forms as possible. Every element has the goal of freedom through form and is a teacher of the highest of spiritual principles. Ultimately Hiphop leads me to no longer being trapped by knowing. Being a practitioner is a search that helps to me to understand that what I've been taught doesn't withstand the pressure of deep contemplation. Being a practitioner breaks down the barriers between things until I no longer know why I ever thought there were barriers in the first place. When I find no separation, when I find no barriers I find peace because I learn to accept that I am all the things that I have encountered. When I contact Hiphop I contact myself, my truest self. I find that there is no fear because there is nothing threatening my existence. It is too big to be threatened. Hiphop is too big for anything that it encounters to threaten its existence. It eats, digests and metabolizes all experience. There is nothing that can hurt or kill it. I experience this fullness as myself and all things, free from the fear of being eradicated by some outside force that will come and go. When KRS-ONE said "we will be here forever" he was correct. There is nothing that can stop Hiphop because it has always been and will always be here forever. No matter how far from the source those that practice it seems to be Hiphop has remained intact and have never hurt it. They in fact are a part of its evolution, of its self knowing. Without them it would be deceiving itself, lying to prevent knowing that it too evolves and goes through the peaks and valleys of self deception and enlightenment. If it were already fully evolved then there would be no need for growth. Hiphop needs all of the shades of the spectrum of consciousness in order to display all of its facets. To display only those that are close to the source would be to forget that at on point they too were confused about the existence of Hiphop. At some point in time all of us have been confused about what brings us well being, which is fine. We come to know only through trial and error. When we accept that the error is a part of the process and not really an error at all we can begin to appreciate the entire journey and others on it. When we arrogantly dismiss those who are in their process of understanding Hiphop deeply we create self deception and suffering within and between us. This is the fundamental error; not seeing clearly based on assumption and a lack of experience. Not seeing clearly we elevate the under developed to the level of developed and reduce the developed to the underdeveloped. The main practice is to use the elements to see as deeply as possible into how things are, how we truly exist, how others truly exist, how form truly exists, how formless space truly exists, the depth of our values and our interconnectedness. When we utilize the elements in this way there is the hope of manifesting peace, love, unity and understanding. When we use the elements in a neurotic way there is still the hope of manifesting peace, love etc. but the time that it will take, the time that none of us has or is promised is longer. With that way there is only the promise of longer periods of personal, community and global suffering. So practitioners should be urged to utilize the elements as skillful means, to use them as artfully as possible so that in this lifetime there can be benefit to ones self and other beings. No one knows what happens when we die but we do know what happens when love dies in our lives, homes, streets and the world. We know that pain. We see it played out in the entertainment world daily. All of that ongoing suffering is unnecessary. Suffering is a part of the human experience but we do not have to continue to suffer as much. We do not have to live in ignorance of our selves, of our minds, of our neighbors. We can use the elements to awaken to more peaceful and interconnected existence where we support each other on our various paths. This is the way of the bboy bodhisattva, the way of the microphone warrior, the way of the Graf rebel, the way of the DJ dream weaver. This is Hiphop Alive.

- Ascience Gnown

Hiphop Alive: Institute of Consciousness, Education and Integral Art is dedicated to the research and utilization of the elements of Hiphop to foster physical, mental, emotional and spiritual internal and external growth of individuals and the collective. It's underlying mission is for peace, love, unity and understanding to manifest freely among all beings. For more information please contact Ascience Gnown at milesinstitute@...

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Watch a YouTube video of Jerry Katz rapping a portion of the above text at karaoke:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48aMCMzWdNk
Group: NDhighlights Message: 4971 From: Dustin LindenSmith Date: 2013-07-15
Subject: #4971 - Saturday, July 13th, 2013 - Editor: Dustin LindenSmith
#4971 - Saturday, July 13th, 2013 - Editor: Dustin LindenSmith

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This 2010 issue of the highlights by Gloria was one of the first ones that gave me the idea to pitch a "Highlights of the Highlights" to the editors. At that time, I had set aside a few hundred issues that dated back to 2007 which I thought were particularly noteworthy. It's from that list that I select my weekly editorial contribution to the Nonduality Highlights.

Dustin

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From: Gloria Lee editglo@...>
Date: Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:44 PM
Subject: [NDhighlights] #3888 - Monday, May 10, 2010 - Editor: Gloria Lee
To: NDH NDhighlights@yahoogroups.com>


 

#3888 - Monday, May 10, 2010 - Editor: Gloria Lee
The Nonduality Highlights -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NDhighlights
 
 
 
Whatever we need is what is given.
Whatever moment we are in is the moment we need.
- Adyashanti
 

 
Radical Emptiness

To the extent that the fire of truth wipes out all fixated points of view, it wipes out inner contradictions as well, and we begin to move in a whole different way. The Way is the flow that comes from a place of non-contradiction - not from good and bad. Much less damage tends to be done from that place. Once we have reached the phase where there is no fixed self-concept, we tend to lead a selfless life. The only way to be selfless is to be self less - without a self. No matter what it does, a self isn't going to be selfless. It can pretend. It can approximate selflessness, but a self is never going to be selfless because there is always an identified personal self at the root of it.

Being selfless isn't a good, holy, or noble activity. It's simply that when there is no self, selflessness happens. This selflessness is very different from having a moralistic standpoint. When action is selfless, it tends to do no harm. It tends to be the salvation, the secret alchemy that awakens and removes conflict. It's a byproduct of not having a self. It just so happens that reality is overflowing with goodness and love.

This is radical emptiness - where everything is arising spontaneously. There is no more need to discriminate with the mind between what seems to be the right thing or the wrong thing to do. In ego-land it's helpful to have an ego that can discriminate between right and wrong, but at a certain point, that's not what you are operating by. You are operating by the flow of the Tao, which is a higher order of intelligence. You don't need to intellectually discriminate anymore because the Tao discriminates without discriminating; it knows without knowing; it moves without moving. There is no sense of being enlightened or unenlightened. Since there is no self, there is nothing to be enlightened or unenlightened.

We can talk about enlightened beings and non-enlightened beings, and conceptually that has a use. But when there is no self, when there is radical emptiness, the whole enlightenment thing is sort of irrelevant because reality has become conscious of itself, which is enlightenment. That's what is often missed. People believe that enlightenment is an improvement on reality, like becoming a super human being or God-knows-what. But enlightenment is when reality is awake to itself as itself within itself.

- Adyashanti
 
posted to Wisdom-l by Mark Scorelle
 

 
 
photo by Alan Larus
 

 
Some quotes below from Adyashanti collected from the Cafe Dharma website.


“Spirituality is not about coming up with the means to manage a situation.
It’s about relinquishing one’s attempt to control what’s happening.”

"The truth is you can’t try to let go. Trying is the opposite of letting go.
To let go is to relinquish trying. To let go is much more like to let be."

"All separation is literally imagination."

"Delusion hides itself in our most prized forms of conditioning --
spirituality and religion."

"A great insight is only as good as the surrender it engenders."


"We are but imperfect manifestations of an absolute perfection. In an
absolute sense, no manifestation can manifest the entirety of the
perfection. Yet each being has an infinite capacity to embody what they
realize in their humanity. If our awakening is genuine, we realize that what
we are is what everything is. It is whole and absolutely complete, and in
that sense, it is perfect. And that wholeness, that completion, that
perfection, has an infinite capacity to manifest itself more clearly and
more abundantly through our humanity. When the ultimate is realized in the
genuine spiritual awakening, that's the ultimate, that's the end point. But
your humanity has no spiritual finish line. It has an infinite capacity to
reflect absolute perfection. Always being, always becoming -- at the same
time with no contradiction."

 "To forgive, you have to join with the thing you're forgiving."

"The true silence isn't when your mind goes quiet, but it is that which is
still and silent even when the world isn't."

"Our bodies and psyches are designed to purge themselves of suffering."

"The desire to get rid of desires maintains the entire game. Your awakening
depends on seeing through it."


"There are different streams of infinity, of emptiness. If you become very
aware, you can feel the stream of emptiness that certain teachings embody."

"A mature healthy relationship with a spiritual teacher requires mutual
respect. The teacher needs to respect you as much as you respect them."

"What you run from owns you."

"The deeper a teaching is, the more you'll see in it, and there's no end to
that."


posted to TheNow_2 by Jani
 


 
photo by Alan Larus

Group: NDhighlights Message: 4972 From: Gloria Lee Date: 2013-07-16
Subject: #4972 - Monday, July 15, 2013 - Editor: Gloria Lee

#4972 - Monday,В July 15, 2013 - Editor: Gloria Lee
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According to Chuang Tzu, "The pivot of Tao passes through the center
where all affirmations and denials converge." So you are neither "perfect"
nor "imperfect." Neither "right" nor "wrong." Neither "good" nor "evil."
Neither "yin" nor "yang." Neither “this” nor “that.” You are, instead, only
the empty space in which all of these apparent opposites
"appear-to-appear."
В 
~Chuck Hillig
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В 
В 
В 
MAMEEN
В 
Be infinitesimal under that sky, a creature
even the sailing hawk misses, a wraith
among the rocks where the mist parts slowly.
В 
Recall the way mere mortals are overwhelmed
by circumstance, how great reputations
dissolve with infirmity and how you,
in particular, stand a hairsbreadth from losing
everyone you hold dear.
В 
Then, look back down the path to the north,
the way you came, as if seeing
your entire past and then south
over the hazy blue coast as if present
to a broad future.
В 
Recall the way you are all possibilities
you can see and how you live best
as an appreciator of horizons
whether you reach them or not.
В 
Admit that once you have got up
from your chair and opened the door,
once you have walked out into the clean air
toward that edge and taken the path up high
beyond the ordinary you have become
the privileged and the pilgrim,
the one who will tell the story
and the one, coming back
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В 
В 
From TOBAR PHADRAIC
River Flow: New and Selected Poems
©David Whyte
В 
Photo: DW. Statue of Patrick, Mameen, Connemara
В 
В 

В 
В 
This oceanic feeling of wonder
is the common source of religious mysticism,
of pure science and art for artÂ’s sake.
~Arthur Koestler
В 
Alan Larus Photography
В 
В 
Ocean
В 
I am in love with Ocean
lifting her thousands of white hats
in the chop of the storm,
or lying smooth and blue, the
loveliest bed in the world.
In the personal life, there is
В 
always grief more than enough,
a heart-load for each of us
on the dusty road. I suppose
there is a reason for this, so I will be
patient, acquiescent. But I will live
nowhere except here, by Ocean, trusting
equally in all the blast and welcome
of her sorrowless, salt self.
В 
~Mary Oliver
В 
via Gloria Tiede on Facebook
В 


В 
В 
Enigmas by Pablo Neruda
В 

You ask what the crab offers, between its claws of gold,
and I say: The sea will tell you.
You ask what the sea-squirt hopes for in its translucent bell.
What can it hope for?
В 
I say that it waits on its time, as you do.
You question for whom the algal Macrocystis offers its embraces.
Unloose it, unloose it, in a certain ocean, and a certain time, that I know.
Though you turn, for my answer to the NarwhalÂ’s malicious ivory,
В 
I say that you wait for a darker reply,
how the Sea-unicorn suffered the lance.
It may be you question the HalcyonÂ’s plumage, tremoring,
in the pure womb of the southern seas?
В 
Now, on the crystalline house of the polyp you twine
new demands, threshing it to the husk?
You want to know the matter electric, caught on the forks of the deep?
The stalactiteÂ’s armour that extends as crystal?
The spear of the angler-fish, the music stretched-out
in the gulf, like a thread amongst waters?
В 
I say to you that the ocean knows it, the life
of its circlings vast as the sands, pure and innumerable,
and between the red vine-clusters, time has brightened
the stone of the petals, the light of Medusas,
and the branches are threshed in the web of the corals,
from the flowing hornÂ’s infinite nacre.
В 
I am the empty net that hangs,
beyond men, rendered dead by the shadowy waters,
fingers grown used to the triangle, measured
by the shy hemisphere of orange-flowers.
В 
I came, like you, penetrating the interminable starlight,
in the net of the self, in the night, and found naked self,
the sole catch, the fish noosed in the wind.
В 
Alan Larus Photography
poem via Alan Larus
Group: NDhighlights Message: 4973 From: Jerry Katz Date: 2013-07-17
Subject: #4973 - Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - Editor: Jerry Katz
#4973 - Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - Editor: Jerry Katz

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The Anonymous Life

by Vicki Woodyard

I live what some may think of as an anonymous life. Despite my personal writings, my private life remains just that—private. I don’t do this consciously, though. Forces far bigger than me have this game set up so that if I break the rules, I suffer.

My ego is very concerned about me. It “suggests” that since I have no social life, I should get one. As if it were that simple. But I listen and sure enough, my wee little mind has ideas about how I will die alone in a rented room if I don’t shake a leg and get me a social network.

Breathe with me now. You have to admit that much of your life is arranged by that nefarious little schemer called by your name! I It anoints your head with Italian Dressing so that others can eat it. I jest but you get the picture. We are not in charge of our own lives. I have been going to Tai Chi for a year now. Last summer I spent every Wednesday crying after Tai Chi Tuesday. The chi was so anxious to work itself out of my kinked up system that it threatened to rust my pipes by crying on a weekly basis. But now I am settling down a bit.

I have accepted Wednesday as the day of the week in which I reclaim myself. I wake up with no plans in place. Such a luxury. I may drive to the store but only if the urge overtakes me. What I will probably do is putter. I’ll just wander through the house straightening things like Monk did on the TV show with that name. I like order a lot.

As an introvert I am reclaiming the inner land. I am squatting on Vicki’s territory and she quite likes it. I see to it that she turns off the phone and allows herself lots and lots of time to sit in silence. The ego has had its day. Now that Act III is underway, let’s just hope it gets fewer and fewer parts to play. I am so tired of her emoting from morning till night.

Gentle readers, I hope this rambling rose of an essay offered you no thorny thoughts. And if it did, it’s just the opposites trying to rock the boat a wee bit. Just enough to raise the question, “What feeds me, really?” What is my true mission in life? Mine is unfolding word by word. This is it, folks, as far as I can tell. If I suddenly find myself booking a cruise so I can drink margaritas and sit in the sun, I will send you a postcard saying I was wrong. In the meantime, have some pie. And ask yourself, "What is my true mission?"

~ ~ ~

Vicki Woodyard's book, Life With A Hole In It, can be ordered here.

http://www.amazon.com/LIFE-WITH-HOLE-IN-IT/dp/1609102770/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348800893&sr=8-1&keywords=life+with+a+hole+in+it


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Dear Friends,

Our retreat in the Sierra's is coming soon! Our Nondual Awareness Community Gathering will now be starting on the evening of September 4th, instead of September 2nd, which is Wednesday, and traveling through Sunday, September 15th. So glad that many of you will be joining us, as we expect many new friends and old friends, returning to another year in the beauty of the Mountain.

All are welcome. This year will be hosting people of all ages, including two small families from abroad, students, musicians, professors and friends from all over the country, travelers, etc....

Please contact Rebecca Smith with your incoming reservations. Thank you everyone who has already completed the reservation process.... and it would be very helpful for anyone else who is still considering attending, to reserve your space a few weeks/month ahead of time with Rebecca. These reservations make life much easier for the Staff and Board of Far Horizons Retreat Center, who will need to aptly prepare for our visit and have proper estimations for the lodging and food accomodations.

Rebecca's number is...... 619-807-9113. You can catch her any day of the week within normal working hours (Pacific Time) up in the Mountain office.

My contact number is.....443-465-0091, if you have any lingering questions about the content of the retreat, or you need information about transportation and directions. I am available on this line.

The lodging availability is here: http://farhorizons.org/reservations/lodging/

The pricing list too is here online: http://farhorizons.org/reservations/prices/

You may also want to check the packing list on the Far Horizons website, which carries some very good advice for life at Seven-Thousand Feet in the Sierra Mountains. Such concerns as sunscreen and hiking boots and all the little knicknacks that you may forget are listed on their website!!!

Erika and I are very excited to share in this communal Un-knowing,

never before as it is.

With love and warmth,
Brendan Smith


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Anamika

Found this quote again, hidden in the book from Leo Hartong, Awakening to the Dream, which i gave to a friend today. It came tumbling down, as if summoned by a thought i had a few days before.... where is this postcard with this beaufitul quote from Kafka....:

Remain sitting at your table and listen.
Do not even listen, simply wait.
Do not even wait, be quite still and solitary.
The world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked;
It has no choice;
It will roll in ecstacy at your feet.

Franz Kafka
Group: NDhighlights Message: 4974 From: Jerry Katz Date: 2013-07-17
Subject: #4974 - Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - Editor: Jerry Katz
#4974 - Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - Editor: Jerry Katz

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Here are some recent postings from Facebook:


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Susan Kahn

I can't even tell you how many times people come into my therapy office feeling dreadful and haven't a clue as to what is really driving their feelings. When the root conditions that create difficult emotions are not understood, they will hold you prisoner.

If you want to say that thought is all an illusion, know that that too is a thought and that one cannot be free by trying to avoid all thinking. Withdrawal and denial are not the answers. Misunderstanding and misconception need to be addressed with such penetrating insight, that one cannot be fooled anymore.


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Isaac Shapiro

A friend today mentioned this idea of "You choose your suffering"

Don't know anyone who wakes up in the morning and says lets see how much I can suffer today.

Seems to me that suffering occurs because of automatic unconscious habits and that no one does it consciously.

The idea that You choose it, is a double wammy, which brings up blame, shame and guilt which I have not found useful in exploring and bringing unconscious habits to consciousness


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Laura Caitlin Burke

"People think that by showing anger they are expressing their emotions. But that is not what it means to be emotional. Anger is a defense mechanism that protects the emotional part of us. The sensitive part of us is our emotional realm, the part that feels the truth about what’s around us. But we’ll show anger before we’ll show that true part of ourselves because we have learned to be embarrassed by it. We’ll get angry because that’s accepted. Sadly, some people even think it is respected. But we won’t show our true emotions, our vulnerability and sensitivity, because that is not accepted. So we have learned to replace those things with anger." - Nehiyawak elder Mary Lee


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Jac O' Keeffe

"As soon as you notice you are in the story, look at what attracted your attention into the movie that is 'all about you'. What is the juice that gets you back into story? Recognising that hook is more useful even than pulling back to observer. Find out if the juice is good enough and let it all mature so that the juice is not good enough. Then the only thing left is to go within and find out what was always there - Truth."
Group: NDhighlights Message: 4975 From: Gloria Lee Date: 2013-07-19
Subject: #4975 - Thursday, July 18, 2013 - Editor: Gloria Lee
#4975 - Thursday,В July 18, 2013 - Editor: Gloria Lee
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Everyday
                            Actions and Dharma ~ Dogen Zenji
                            http://bit.ly/15eRwpL
                            
                            Those who see worldly life as an obstacle to
                            dharma see no dharma in everyday actions.
                            They have not yet discovered that there are
                            no everyday actions outside of dharma.
                            
                            Dogen Zenji
                            
                            quoted in the book
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Those who see worldly life as an obstacle to dharma see no dharma in
everyday actions. They have not yet discovered that there are no everyday
actions outside of dharma.
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~Dogen Zenji
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quoted in the book "Teachers of Wisdom"

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В 
Leonard Cohen said this: "I donÂ’t think there is any other consideration but
practical. IÂ’ve never been able to disassociate the spiritual from the
practical. I think that what we call the spirit or spirituality is the most
intense form of the practical."
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via Vicki Woodyard
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When Nisargadatta was asked if there was a difference between him and
Ramana he said :" No difference whatsoever, but I am slightly better
dressed"
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via Sandra Ma on Facebook
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"It is not the circumstances which arise as one's karmic vision that
condition a person into the dualistic state; it's a person's own attachment
that enables what arises to condition him. "
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~Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
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From the book, "The Crystal and The Way of Light"
via Daily Dharma by anipachen
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"Lovers find secret places inside this violent world, where they make
transactions with beauty..."
~Rumi
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(Monet, 'Blue Water Lilies')
via Fred LaMotte

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The only way you will ever awaken is through the silence, not through
analyzation of facts. Not by sorting out good and bad, but through simple
silence, letting go. Letting go of all thoughts, all the hurts, all the dogmas
and concepts. Letting go of these things daily.
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~ Robert Adams
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There is nothing to learn at all (laughter).
Who has to learn?
The person who has to learn doesn't even exist.
It is the ego that wants to learn.
The mind wants to learn.
The ego believes it has to know knowledge.
It has to acquire wisdom.
But you are wisdom.
Wisdom is your real nature.
When the ego is gone then you know because you are the universe.
But the one who wants to know is the ego.

~ Robert Adams

...from 'Does Karma Really Exist?' - January 26, 1992
via Advaita (Nonduality, Oneness, One Love) on Facebook
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Group: NDhighlights Message: 4976 From: Jerry Katz Date: 2013-07-19
Subject: #4976 - Friday, July 19, 2013 - Editor: Jerry Katz
#4976 - Friday, July 19, 2013 - Editor: Jerry Katz

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A thread on the Nonduality Highlights group on Facebook, which all are welcome to join:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/NondualityHighlights/


Jerry Katz

It's beautiful when things fall apart.

Galen Sharp

That reminds me of the name of the excellent biography of Terence
Gray - "Only by Failure." For those of us who know only his books, this is about his life before he wrote his wonderful books.

Greg Allen Morgoglione

The boundless potential resulting from the perfectly incomplete nature of the canvas of life is complete and whole...

Amrita Nadi

It is raining outside of my cave and the hibiscus seems happy.

Jan Barendrecht

What the Bhagavad Gita and the New Testament have in common is
an ambiance of war. No time is a better time for things to fall apart as
wartime, and this time mankind also is involved in a war against the proverbial Gaia. Even those uninitiated in the art of falling apart soon will see signs on the wall, in the sky and on the waters - or where they once were

Anamika Borst

Every appearance is inevitably on the way towards its demise. The newborn baby carries the unavoidable truth that it will die. A mountain is likewise continuously on the way to changing its appearance. Centuries from now
erosion will have carried away large chunks of this seemingly solid and
unchanging appearance in the landscape.

This knowledge of destruction, annihilation and falling apart is something when not resisted and judged carries an incredible beauty. Its a feature from the Source, from Emptiness itself and something which we often prefer to ignore, or avoid.

But when we take in this ravaging characteristic of the infinite, we are able to see the raw, awesome and often exhilarating power. Breath taking after natural disasters. After tsunamis or cyclone when all the world has changed appearance beyond recognition one feels awestruck...

At any moment the process of falling apart of dying, of returning to Source, can evoke feelings of wonder, of tenderness, of sadness and grief. Any emotion might turn up witnessing this natural process of returning to Source.

Just happening..
Group: NDhighlights Message: 4977 From: Dustin LindenSmith Date: 2013-07-20
Subject: #4977 - Saturday, July 20, 2013 - Editor: Dustin LindenSmith
#4977 - Saturday, July 20, 2013 - Editor: Dustin LindenSmith

The Nonduality Highlights http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NDhighlights/

The source of the first excerpt from this Highlights of the Highlights (taken from Jerry's Nov 2010 Issue #4070) is an experimental fiction writer and long-time nonduality geek named Berit Ellingsen. I first got to know Ms. Ellingsen through the LiveJournal community in maybe 2001, when I seem to recall her as a young teen poet, an intelligent debater, and a stimulating blogger on various enlightenment topics of interest to me at the time.

Her blog post links to an extremely good, nuts-and-bolts nonduality essay by Sailor Bob Adamson, who I've also previously mentioned is prominently and excellently featured in an early podcast series by Australian web entrepreneur and hardcore nondual dude Cameron Reilly, called The Advaita Podcast. If memory serves, Cameron's first contact with Sailor Bob's teachings came through the 12-step and recovery community in Australia, and I believe it was while Sailor Bob was working the steps that he became enlightened himself and began to teach.

The issue closes with a now-dead link to what may be a defunct magazine about spiritual enlightenment. It's probably only fitting that magazines devoted so deeply to enlightenment should fizzle out after a time. There's only so much you can say, really... (As I sign off of our nearly five-thousandth issue of the Nonduality Highlights...)

Dustin


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Date: Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 5:06 PM
Subject: [NDhighlights] #4070 - Tuesday, November 9, 2010 - Editor: Jerry Katz
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#4070 - Tuesday, November 9, 2010 - Editor: Jerry Katz
 
The Nonduality Highlights
- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NDhighlights
 
 

 
 
This issue features new entries in the expanding globe of nonduality: a ninja wizard who just discovered nonduality, a nonduality forum at the Second Asia Consciousness Forum, and a new hard copy glossy magazine focusing on nonduality.  
 
 

 

Nonduality - fantastic article by Bob Adamson

I'm just going to out myself as a big fan of nonduality. It's a way of life disguised as a philosophical stance. :D (It has many similarities with zen.)

Found this fantastic article by Bob Adamson a few days ago.

It deals with the relationship between thoughts and reality. Don't worry if it doesn't make any sense to you.

What Is by Bob Adamson.


An excerpt:

"Constantly over the years with the habit patterns going on it (thought) has believed itself to be the intelligence. It believes it has reality; it has power; it has will; it can do what it likes and what it thinks it wants to do.

That is why this investigation is needed. Just stop and question. Have a look at what we have believed ourselves to be. Thought can’t of itself do anything! Because that thought ‘I see’, can’t see! The thought ‘I hear’, can’t hear! The thought ‘I am aware’, can’t be aware! But there is seeing; there is hearing; and there is awareness. It is happening right now! The seeing itself cannot conceptualise. It cannot say ‘I am seeing this’.


Neither can the hearing say ‘I am hearing this’. It is just pure seeing and pure hearing. It is conceptualised by the mind, which must refer to some past memory to get that name.

The mind or the ‘me’, the thought that I have about myself, is the past. That is all it is. It is the past, and the past is dead. It is gone. It has happened. It is not what is. That centre that we constantly refer to or believe in is a dead image. Now, can you understand why it can never be happy, it can never be complete or whole: because it can’t keep up with what is."
 
 

 

Welcome to the Second Asia Consciousness Festival

About the Festival

Consciousness is a highly interdisciplinary topic that everyone has a first-hand experience with. It is arguably the most challenging topic of science and an area with great value in solving critical issues within our society today. There is an active community of neurobiologists, psychologists, physicists, philosophers, and cognitive scientists that are interested in developing a theory of the underlying biological mechanisms of consciousness, described as the “hard problem” of consciousness. Designers are interested in qualia and phenomenology to establish a basis for aesthetics and “good design.” Others in the field of psychology and mind-body medicine are interested in the role of one’s consciousness in both mental and physical health. These practitioners devise practices that facilitate natural healing. Still others are interested in the “evolution” of one’s consciousness and devise models and practices that facilitate one’s “personal evolution” in understanding self, ultimately addressing the big questions such as “who am I” and “why am I here.”

The Asia Consciousness Festival hosts a series of events that include conferences, workshops, performances, and exhibitions over the course of a month to raise the awareness of consciousness trends in Hong Kong and Asia. The events will bring together visionaries and leaders in the field of consciousness, spanning neuroscience, psychology, philosophy, cognitive sciences, education, and spirituality. The target audience includes researchers, practitioners, and professionals interested in psychology, consciousness, art, educators, and members of the community at large that are interested in the bigger questions in life as well as improving the quality of life.

The events will serve as a catalyst to increase awareness and stimulate interaction and collaboration. Practical hands-on workshops will also facilitate individuals’ personal explorations of their consciousness with an objective of improving their quality of life. Our goal is to make a regional and international impact in this area. Hong Kong has traditionally served as a bridge between east and west as well as a lifestyle trendsetter for Greater China.

 
Non-Duality Forum: Know Thyself
 
When: 7pm - 10pm, November 15, 2010
 
Non-duality, or advaita, is a term that describes the direct experience that nothing is separate. For some, non-duality is a philosophy, a belief, or an aspiration. For others, non-duality is the sudden and absolute realization that all perceived separation is entirely illusory. According to non-dualists, your fundamental nature is pure consciousness itself, the unbound awareness from which mind and matter arises. Non-dualism lays at the heart of spiritual traditions, teachings, and practices including Hinduism, Buddhism, Zen, and Taoism.
 
Only recently has non-duality entered the realm of scientific study. Scientists are becoming increasingly interested in non-duality. New tools such as EEG and FMRI allow scientists to examine the activity in the brains of individuals that claim non-symbolic state of consciousness. These new tools allow scientists and psychologists to look at ancient practices in a new light, and ask some fundamental questions such as:
 
    * Is there a physiological basis for non-symbolic consciousness?
    * How are non-symbolic states of consciousness achieved?
    * How does the experience of non-duality influence one's life?
 
With the advent of quantum mechanics and the understanding that the fabric of space and time is a unified field, ancient traditions and quantum physicists are finding convergence in their views of the material world. Positive psychology researchers have discovered a correlation between one's happiness and their world-view. New research in this area will have a profound impact on how we live and interrelate with one another. Join us for a fascinating evening with non-duality teachers and researchers.
 
The Forum will be moderated by Jeffery Martin and consist of presentations by Gary Weber, Gino Yu, Stephen Ng and Swami Sadyojathah, followed by a panel discussion.
 
 

 
 
 
Spiritual Enlightenment Magazine
 
November 2010 Issue Now Available as Hard Copy
 

Group: NDhighlights Message: 4978 From: Gloria Lee Date: 2013-07-23
Subject: #4978 - Monday, July 22, 2013 - Editor: Gloria Lee
#4978 - Monday,В July 22, 2013 - Editor: Gloria Lee
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Nearing Hao-pa
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By Yuan Mei
(1716 - 1798)
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English version by J. P. Seaton
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(I saw in the mist a little village of a few tiled roofs and joyfully admired it.)
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There's a stream, and there's bamboo,
there's mulberry and hemp.
Mist-hid, clouded hamlet,
a mild, tranquil place.
Just a few tilled acres.
Just a few tiled roofs.
How many lives would I
have to live, to get
that simple.
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Night Blooming Cerus by Peter Shefler
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To meditate means to go home to yourself.
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Then you know how to take care of the things that are happening inside you,
and you know how to take care of the things that happen around you.
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All meditation exercises are aimed at bringing you back to your true home,
to yourself.
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Without restoring your peace and calm and helping the world to restore
peace and calm, you cannot go very far in the practice.'"
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~Thich Nhat Hanh
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Sunlight fell upon the wall;
В В  the wall received a borrowed splendor.
В В  Why set your heart on a piece of earth,
В В В  O simple one? Seek out the source
В В В  which shines forever.
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В В В В В  ~ Rumi
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Group: NDhighlights Message: 4979 From: Jerry Katz Date: 2013-07-23
Subject: #4979 - Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - Editor: Jerry Katz
#4979 - Tuesday, July 22, 2013 - Editor: Jerry Katz

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I found a lot of stuff to post.

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Jake Shimabukuro ReImagining Judy Garland's "Somewhere Over The Rainbow"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln8zyW-2-Eo


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http://www.speakingtree.in/public/spiritual-blogs/seekers/wellness/nonduality-buzz

Nonduality Buzz

By: Sally Ross on Jul 22, 2013

Dear Friends,

Last week I was invited to participate as a speaker at an event focused on the subject of "Nonduality."
It turned out to be a very BUSY experience! Lots of talking!!!!!!!! When my time came I spoke about the Size of the Universe, pointed to the importance of Just Sitting meditation as a way of confirming this Immensity and also sat quietly with the group for awhile.

It seems the event organizer wasn't very happy with my contribution to the event. He has already invited me back next year, but only if I can agree to structure the presentation in a different way. Otherwise, he writes, he will have to begin looking for another nondual meditator to fill the spot I held on the program.

(Suddenly, I notice what it must feel like to be a lab rat...)

Then he follows up by telling me I should read Krishnamurti or The Heart Sutra so I can know that "it is all right here right now... meditation is practicing for the future." Hmm, sounds like someone's trying really hard to convince me of something, eh?

Anyhow, I thought my response might be of value to some. Here I offer it.

With love,
Sally

* * *

There is no such thing as a "nondual meditator."
This concept is a lie.

I could never call myself a nondual meditator, nor any other kind of meditator. I just meditate. That is, I simply sit, every day, without labeling myself or others—without saying something about what Reality is. This is what "practice" means. In the end, it's the only thing that matters to me. If I do not meditate, all my talk, philosophies, writings, studies etc. have no intrinsic, authentic value. In that case they are just regurgitated concepts that somebody else invented or wrote down.

The real work is the confirmation, in silence, of what all the great saints and sages have been pointing to. This encouragement is what I share with those whose hearts are open to listening, and I urge them to check it out and see for themselves. In each one of us, ultimately "I" can be the only legitimate authority regarding what "I" actually is.

The most important thing I can ever read is my own Being, and then the infinite size of this reveals its ongoing expansion and availability. Otherwise, I'll never become familiar with the True Nature of what it is that's sitting on my chair or cushion. I'll never recognize the immensity, boundlessness and all-inclusiveness of the Moment exactly the way it is—the way it already always has been, without something added. I'll never just be naturally myself. I'll never truly love what I am.

To learn to be quiet inside, allowing the Entire Cosmos to effortlessly express Itself, takes practice. To stop "interfering" by getting mentally involved in concepts requires perseverance, patience and great humility. This is called Abidance, and through it eventually one intimately accords with the source of all Knowledge. Before anything is said, Self-Knowledge is complete, if one is willing to look in stillness.

The fruits of earnest, committed Practice spill over into every aspect of a person's life.

Those who are not inclined to meditate will not comprehend what I am speaking of.


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God in Relation to the Non Dual Understanding, with Rupert Spira:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha_KFQxvGbQ

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Terry Choyce sends this by way of Mandee, part of the Nova Scotia gang:

MUTUALLY ARISING

By Judith Froemming

"So, when is the leaf not part of the tree?
When are you not a part of me?
...

When is the day not the night?
When is the wrong not the right?
When is my question not my answer?
When is my stillness not my dancer?
When is my end not my beginning?
When is my living not my dying?
The figure and the ground
are inseparable,
interdependent,
mutually arising.
Only when reality is non-dual
can I know the Way."


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Berit Ellingsen http://beritellingsen.com/

Found some New York society web pages and felt like an anthropologist studying a strange and foreign tribe.

Why do we think having more of something, money, fame, or things, makes someone better or more worth listening to. I don't get it at all.

The beliefs and assumptions of the social ape are incomprehensible.


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From the Nonduality Highlights Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/NondualityHighlights/

Jerry Katz

I really feel that -- thanks to Facebook, the length of time that popular nonduality has been around, the advent of in-person get togethers, and the ease with which people are talking about nonduality -- that it's time for a talk radio type of show that people can listen to and be part of, as long as it is fun, informative, open, interesting, and available worldwide over the internet. Wuddayathink?
Like · · Unfollow Post · Share · Sunday at 10:10am
Liesbeth van Woerden, Fernando Rozas, Nancy Hodge Long and 15 others like this.

Yaakov Litman I agree.
Sunday at 10:11am via mobile · Like · 1

Jerry Katz We have a listener!
Sunday at 10:12am · Like · 2

Dunc Marshall Do it! Reminds me of urbanguru cafe. That was amazing and certainly helped my understanding to increase and self-obsession to reduce. I, for one, would tune in!!!
Sunday at 10:15am via mobile · Like · 1

Jerry Katz Urban Guru Cafe was/is classic. My sense is that we are ready for something more live and in the moment. Thanks for you interest.
Sunday at 10:19am · Like · 1

Farski Doodle Make that two listeners!
Sunday at 10:25am · Like · 1

Jerry Katz Thank you. Well I've conducted a number of interviews, over 50, and what interests me now is the live dialogue. Just a matter of setting up the technical infrastructure. I've done a radio show before though much of it was recorded material. However the live shows we did always felt energized.
Sunday at 10:28am · Like · 2

Pete Sierra What a great idea! With you at the helm it will be radioactive. Listeners will lose weight, and their hair. We all will look like Greg Goode.
Sunday at 11:25am · Like · 2

Jerry Katz We already do.
Sunday at 11:29am · Like · 1

Kathleen Bodi I liked the hip-hop you did. Non-dual poetry slam would be pretty sweet.
Sunday at 2:08pm · Unlike · 2

Howard Peck Terrific idea!
Sunday at 4:32pm via mobile · Unlike · 2

Roger Mahaffey I'd listen
Sunday at 5:37pm via mobile · Unlike · 2

Leo Drioli Yes! Please ...
Sunday at 7:43pm · Unlike · 2

Andrew Hall I agree Jerry. Live shows usually have a great energy that taped stuff finds hard to deliver! But good luck finding a time that works for you and the rest of us.
Yesterday at 8:04am via mobile · Like · 1

Nancy Hodge Long Yes, Yes, Yes
Yesterday at 9:50am · Like · 1

Jerry Katz Thank you all for your interest.
12 hours ago · Like · 2

Pete Sierra Our worthless media/Nondual Royal babies wanted. We are afflicted with a media that wastes hundreds
of air hrs in inanities and sadistic news. It covers at nauseam celebrities, royal weddings and babies, high profiles
murders, and disasters. Few things constructive get ever mentioned even in passing.
Jerry is right we need Nonduality radio, TV, and maybe street clowns too. ;))
about an hour ago · Like

Andrew Hall True, ain't much news in the news anymore.. what's that word .. infotainment..fancy way of saying celebrity gossip.
3 minutes ago · Like

Jerry Katz Yes there's room for a new kind of media. It could be made of many small radio and tv stations, not centralized in any way, with the only thing in common being this perspective of nonduality or awareness. The contributors and audience are in place. Here we are. Just a matter of making it worth everyone's while to be part of it.
a few seconds ago · Like

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