in Denver and facilitates Guided Inquiry
Interview with Colette
Listen here: http://nonduality.com/colettekelso_22january2014.mp3
cues and tracks:
0:00 – 4:26 Introductions, the joy of
facilitating, being a cheerleader for what’s here.
4:26 – 8:39 Power of group conference calls and
gatherings, and awareness of the container. “Are you aware right
now?” “Is there anything separate from the knowing?” Value of
being curious of the space.
8:39 – 13:58 The experience is the teaching. What
13:58 – 17:35 One’s timeline. Colette’s study of
creative writing now and in college. Nature of nonduality
writing. Matter of having a point of view.
17:35 – 22:04 Colette’s experience with Scott
Kiloby’s inquiries and leaving Scott’s work. Scott Kiloby’s work
22:04 – 29:08 “I never wanted to look at people as
though there was something to fix.” Watching how we enter into
the mind and asking, “What is here?” In a sense we’re all
dealing with PTSD. Lynn asks what is the experience now. The
story of the red bus.
29:08 – 31:57 John Wheeler discussed, nature of
how he communicates. Seeing everything as a concept.
31:57 – 36:56 What’s left when there are no
concepts. “What is this?” The freedom associated with this
36:56 – 40:56 John Wheeler re-visited. “Do you
know who you really are?” The dance of life. The mind doesn’t
40:56 – 46:59 “Available for viewing.” Conceptual
traps. Paying attention to attention.
46:59 – 49:29 “There’s no one here and nothing to
do,” is as conceptual as anything else. There’s nothing but
49:29 – 55:36 “Step out of the box which is the
size of a coffin.” “Spreading the good news.” Doing this kind of
work of pointing to ‘this’. “Not talking about nonduality would
be a relief more than anything else.”
55:36 – 1:00:00 Sharing this teaching; qualities
of love,compassion and presence. “Just be … without any need to
change.” Presence as healing.
1:00:00 – 1:03:55 Healing, whole, hold. Chasing
the experience of nondual groups. The experience is always here.
1:03:55 – 1:06:48 There’s nothing but freedom, it
is not separate from awareness or experience. Colette’s story of
moving to Hawaii and her experience with travel recently.
1:06:48 – 1:08:19 Colette’s Guided Looking
process. It’s like taking an x-ray.
1:08:19 – 1:16:25 Colette reads her writing about
her daughter taking piano lessons: “This is what guided looking
is like—a few consistent, gentle reminders, or light taps, and
one becomes the looking, the seeing.” Writing poetry. Jane
Kenyon. “The unsayable said.” -Donald Hall. Nature of poetry as
an offering of space. The seeing and the seen. Dr. Jean Klein
quoted: “The only way out is to simply observe. This allows us
to take note of our physical reactions, our mental attitudes and
patterns and our motivations at the exact moment they appear.”
1:16:25 – 1:20:14 Atmananda Krishna Menon quoted
regarded atman and non-atman. Watching life as a play and things
get pulled back to atman. Noticing non-atman.
1:20:14 – 1:22:10 Websites given. Closing
statements. Value of a facilitator in seeing through the mind.
Get first hand experience.
MIND REVEALED ~ LOOK-SEE
“Hold on to the sense ‘I am’ to the exclusion of
everything else. When thus the mind becomes completely silent,
it shines with a new light and vibrates with new knowledge. It
all comes spontaneously, you need only hold on to the ‘I
am’…be silent and watch it expressing itself in action.” ~ Sri
“If you can recognize, even occasionally, the thoughts that go
through your mind as simply thoughts, if you can witness your
own mental-emotional reactive patterns as they happen, then
that dimension is already emerging in you as the awareness in
which thoughts and emotions happen — the timeless inner space
in which the content of your life unfolds. The stream of
thinking has enormous momentum that can easily drag you along
with it.” ~ Eckhart Tolle
These are pointers—only until they become lived
experience. If they are merely understood, then they are just
more thoughts amongst many random thoughts that can “easily drag
you along” in conceptual, mind-created activity. No pointer, no
matter how eloquent, or how deep the resonance, conveys any kind
of knowing, unless and until it is a lived experience.
So if the above quotes are familiar—seem to make
sense—but the experience, the knowing of that to which they
point, is not forthcoming, is there a way to take the pointer
all the way home to the felt, lived experience? Can one stay
with the looking, observing, “be silent and watch it” and
In the Look-Sees, what we’re doing seems to bridge
the difference between understanding the pointer conceptually
and seeing, or apprehending, the experience. The suggestion here
is guided looking. When you simply point to the observing, the
capacity to watch, there is a glimpse, and then mind steps in,
oftentimes instantly, without noticing that one has gone back
into the conceptual. When a facilitator is there, looking right
along with you, the thought-train can be stopped, so to speak,
and bring you right back to looking.
I used to watch my daughter taking piano lessons
when she was younger. The piano teacher would sit on the bench
with her, and as my daughter played, her teacher would
occasionally touch her back, and she would sit straighter. She
would touch her hands, and she’d remember to go lightly on the
keys. She would even touch her cheek and the tension in her face
would relax (she’d stop trying so hard). So my daughter would
get the experience of playing better–and eventually, the better
posture, lighter fingers, and relaxed face would become an
integral part of the playing. The body, the playing would
correct on its own, based on the persistence of these gentle
This is what guided looking is like—a few
consistent, gentle reminders, or light taps, and one becomes the
looking, the seeing. Mind can actually be seen for the habitual
tendency, the tyranny, it seems to assume. When mind is put at
this subtle distance (purely metaphorical, there is no
distance), it seems as if there is room for genuine insight, or
clear seeing (IN-sight), regardless of where the insight is
spoken, whether seemingly from the facilitator or facilitated.
In this way, self-ing, other-ing, world-ing can
actually be seen in action—the process, the mechanism of the
mind constructing and maintaining a self, and the world and
relations that keep it in place. And it can be seen, like a
mirage appeals to the thirsty, the fascination, the lure of this
self-ing activity. (Maya, the seductress) Once this attraction
is seen, the gig is up; the curtain has been pulled back on the
wizard, revealing the mechanics behind the smoke and mirrors.
There were no armies, no tactics, no strategy required to expose
the wizard–he was simply seen, the mechanics behind his power
The facilitator is not the expert in this
equation. Facilitator obsolescence is built in, as the habit of
observing thoughts eventually supercedes the habitual
identification with thoughts. Thoughts, stories, tend to
disperse as they are noticed. The seeing itself takes over, and
the illusion of duality is exposed as the ultimate
misapprehension. It “…all comes spontaneously.”
We invite you to look, and simply see—to go beyond
the pointer to the knowing itself, to where the pointer is
lived, and becomes clear. This seeing becomes the teaching (no
dogma, or need to take, preach, or defend any position), and the
attraction becomes greater to stay to stay in the seeing, rather
than to be pulled in by the movie. It is both Self-nourishing
and concurrently self-effacing. It all takes care of Itself; the
pointing is in the seeing. It’s so appallingly simple. Have a
look and see.
only way out is to simply observe. This allows us to take note
of our physical reactions, our mental attitudes and patterns
and our motivations at the exact moment they appear.” ~ Jean
facilitates Guided Inquiry
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