There are very interesting books written by apparently very
competent people, in
the illusoriness of the world is denied (though not its
transitoriness). According to them, there
a hierarchy of beings, from the lowest to the highest; on each
level the complexity of the
enables and reflects the depth, breadth and intensity of
consciousness, without any
or knowable culmination. One law supreme rules throughout:
evolution of forms for the
and enrichment of consciousness and manifestation of its
This may or may not be so. Even if it is, it is only so from the
mind’s point of view, but In
the entire universe (mahadakash) exists only in consciousness
(chidakash), while I have my
in the Absolute (paramakash). In pure being consciousness
arises; in consciousness the
appears and disappears. All there is is me, all there is is
mine. Before all beginnings, after all
-- I am. All has its being in me, in the ‘I am’, that shines in
every living being. Even not-
is unthinkable without me. Whatever happens, I must be there to
Why do you deny being to the world?
I do not negate the world. I see it as appearing in
consciousness, which is the totality of the
in the immensity of the unknown.
begins and ends is mere appearance. The world can be said to
appear, but not to be. The
may last very long on some scale of time, and be very short on
another, but ultimately it
to the same. Whatever is time bound is momentary and has no
Surely, you see the actual world as it surrounds you. You seem
to behave quite normally!
That is how it appears to you. What in your case occupies the
entire field of consciousness, is a
speck in mine. The world lasts, but for a moment. It is your
memory that makes you think that
world continues. Myself, I don't live by memory. I see the world
as it is, a momentary
In your consciousness?
All idea of ‘me’ and ‘mine’, even of ‘I am’ is in consciousness.
Is then your ‘absolute being’ (paramakash) un-consciousness?
The idea of un-consciousness exists in consciousness only.
Then, how do you know you are in the supreme state?
Because I am in it. It is the only natural state.
Can you describe it?
Only by negation, as uncaused, independent, unrelated,
undivided, uncomposed, unshakable,
unreachable by effort. Every positive definition is from memory
And yet my state is supremely actual and, therefore, possible,
Are you not immersed timelessly in an abstraction?
Abstraction is mental and verbal and disappears in sleep, or
swoon; it reappears in time; I am in
own state (swarupa) timelessly in the now . Past and future are
in mind only -- I am now.
The world too is now.
The world around us.
It is your world you have in mind, not mine. What do you know of
me, when even my talk with
is in your world only? You have no reason to believe that my
world is identical with yours. My
is real, true, as it is perceived, while yours appears and
disappears, according to the state of
mind. Your world is something alien, and you are afraid of it.
My world is myself. I am at home.
If you are the world, how can you be conscious of it? Is not the
subject of consciousness
from its object?
Consciousness and the world appear and disappear together, hence
they are two aspects of
In sleep I am not, and the world continues.
How do you know?
On waking up I come to know. My memory tells me.
Memory is in the mind. The mind continues in sleep.
It is partly in abeyance.
But its world picture is not affected. As long as the mind is
there, your body and your world are
Your world is mind-made, subjective, enclosed within the mind,
hanging on the thread of memory.
So is yours?
Oh no. I live in a world of realities, while yours is of
imagination. Your world is personal, private,
intimately your own. Nobody can enter it, see as you see, hear
as you hear, feel your
and think your thoughts. In your world you are truly alone,
enclosed in your ever-changing
which you take for life. My world is an open world, common to
all, accessible to all. In my
there is community, insight, love, real quality; the individual
is the total, the totality -- in the
All are one and the One is all.
Is your world full of things and people as is mine?
No, it is full of myself.
But do you see and hear as we do?
Yes, l appear to hear and see and talk and act, but to me it
just happens, as to you digestion or
happens. The body-mind machine looks after it, but leaves me out
of it. Just as you do
need to worry about growing hair, so I need not worry about
words and actions. They just
and leave me unconcerned, for in my world nothing ever goes