Greatest Guru is Your Inner Self
On all sides I hear that freedom from desires and inclinations is
the first condition of
But I find the condition impossible of fulfilment. Ignorance of
oneself causes desires
desires perpetuate ignorance. A truly vicious circle!
There are no conditions to fulfil. There is nothing to be done,
nothing to be given up. Just
and remember, whatever you perceive is not you, nor yours. It is
there in the field of
but you are not the field and its contents, nor even the knower of
the field. It is your
that you have to do things that entangle you in the results of your
efforts -- the motive, the
the failure to achieve, the sense of frustration -- all this holds
you back. Simply look at
happens and know that you are beyond it.
Does it mean I should abstain from doing anything?
You cannot! What goes on must go on. If you stop suddenly, you will
Is it a matter of the known and the knower becoming one?
Both are ideas in the mind, and words that express them. There is no
self in them. The self is
between nor beyond. To look for it on the mental level is futile.
Stop searching, and see -- it
here and now -- it is that 'I am' you know so well. All you need to
do is to cease taking yourself to
within the field of consciousness. Unless you have already
considered these matters carefully,
to me once will not do. Forget your past experiences and
achievements, stand naked,
to the winds and rains of life and you will have a chance.
Has devotion (bhakti) any place in your teaching?
When you are not well, you go to a physician who tells you what is
wrong and what is the
If you have confidence in him, it makes things simple: you take the
medicine, follow the diet
and get well. But if you do not trust him, you may still take a
chance, or you may study
yourself! In all cases it is your desire for recovery that moves
you, not the physician.
trust there is no peace. Somebody or other you always trust -- it
may be your mother, or
wife. Of all the people the knower of the self, the liberated man,
is the most trust-worthy. But
to trust is not enough. You must also desire. Without desire for
freedom of what use is the
that you can acquire freedom? Desire and confidence must go
together. The stronger
desire, the easier comes the help. The greatest Guru is helpless as
long as the disciple is not
to learn. Eagerness and earnestness are all-important. Confidence
will come with experience.
devoted to your goal -- and devotion to him who can guide you will
follow. If your desire and
are strong, they will operate and take you to your goal, for you
will not cause delay by
greatest Guru is your inner self. Truly, he is the supreme teacher.
He alone can take you to
goal and he alone meets you at the end of the road. Confide in him
and you need no outer
But again you must have the strong desire to find him and do nothing
that will create
and delays. And do not waste energy and time on regrets. Learn from
your mistakes and
not repeat them.
If you do not mind my asking a personal question...?
Yes, go ahead.
I see you sitting on an antelope skin. How does it tally with
All my working life I was a cigarette-maker, helping people to spoil
their health. And in front of
door the municipality has put up a public lavatory, spoiling my
health. In this violent world how
one keep away from violence of some kind or other?
Surely all avoidable violence should be avoided. And yet in India
every holy man has his tiger,
leopard or antelope skin to sit on.
Maybe because no plastics were available in ancient times and a skin
was best to keep the
away. Rheumatism has no charm, even for a saint! Thus the tradition
arose that for lengthy
a skin is needed. Just like the drum-hide in a temple, so is the
antelope skin of a Yogi.
hardly notice it.
But the animal had to be killed.
I have never heard of a Yogi killing a tiger for his hide. The
killers are not Yogis and the Yogis are not killers.
Should you not express your disapproval by refusing to sit on a
What an idea! I disapprove of the entire universe, why only a skin?
What is wrong with the universe?
Forgetting your Self is the greatest injury; all the calamities flow
from it. Take care of the most
the lesser will take care of itself. You do not tidy up a dark room.
You open the windows
Letting in the light makes everything easy. So, let us wait with
improving others until we have
ourselves as we are -- and have changed. There is no need to turn
round and round in
questioning; find yourself and everything will fall into its proper
The urge to return to the source is very rare. Is it at all natural?
Outgoing is natural in the beginning, ingoing -- in the end. But in
reality the two are one, just like
in and out are one.
In the same way are not the body and the dweller in the body one?
Events in time and space -- birth and death, cause and effect --
these may be taken as one; but
body and the embodied are not of the same order of reality. The body
exists in time and space,
and limited, while the dweller is timeless and spaceless, eternal
and all-pervading. To
the two is a grievous mistake and the cause of endless suffering.
You can speak of the mind
body as one, but the body-mind is not the underlying reality.
Whoever he may be, the dweller is in control of the body and,
therefore, responsible for it.
There is a universal power which is in control and is responsible.
And so, I can do as I like and put the blame on some universal
power? How easy!
Yes, very easy. Just realise the One Mover behind all that moves and
leave all to Him. If you do
hesitate, or cheat, this is the shortest way to reality. Stand
without desire and fear, relinquishing
control and all responsibility.
Yes, divine madness. What is wrong in letting go the illusion of
personal control and personal
Both are in the mind only. Of course, as long as you imagine
yourself to be in
you should also imagine yourself to be responsible. One implies the
How can the universal be responsible for the particular?
All life on earth depends on the sun. Yet you cannot blame the sun
for all that happens, though
is the ultimate cause. Light causes the colour of the flower, but it
neither controls, nor is
for it directly. It makes it possible, that is all.
What I do not like in all this is taking refuge in some universal
You cannot quarrel with facts.
Whose facts? Yours or mine?
Yours. You cannot deny my facts, for you do not know them. Could you
know them, you would
deny them. Here lies the trouble. You take your imagining for facts
and my facts for imagination.
know for certain that all is one. Differences do not separate.
Either you are responsible for nothing,
for everything. To imagine that you are in control and responsible
for one body only is the
of the body-mind.
Still, you are limited by your body.
Only in matters pertaining to the body. This I do not mind. It is
like enduring the seasons of the
They come, they go -- they hardly affect me. In the same way
body-minds come and go -- life
forever in search of new expressions.
As long as you do not put all the burden of evil on God, I am
satisfied. There may be a God for
I know, but to me he is a concept projected by the human mind. He
may be a reality to you, but
me society is more real than God, for I am both its creature and its
prisoner. Your values are
and compassion; society's sagacious selfishness. I live in a world
quite different from yours.
None compels you, but I am compelled. My world is an evil world,
full of tears, toil and pain. To
it away by the intellectualising, by putting forth theories of
evolution and karma is merely
insult to injury. The God of an evil world is a cruel God.
You are the god of your world and you are both stupid and cruel. Let
God be a concept -- your
creation. Find out who you are, how did you come to live, longing
for truth, goodness and
in a world full of evil. Of what use is your arguing for or against
God. when you just do not
who is God and what are you talking about. The God born of fear and
hope, shaped by desire
imagination, cannot be the Power That is, the Mind and the Heart of
I agree that the world I live in and the God I believe in are both
creatures of imagination. But in
way are they created by desire? Why do I imagine a world so painful
and a God so indifferent?
is wrong with me that I should torture myself so cruelly? The
enlightened man comes and tells
'it is but a dream to put an end to', but is he not himself a part
of the dream? I find myself
and see no way out. You say you are free. Of what are you free? For
heaven's sake, don't
me on words, enlighten me, help me to wake up, since it is you who
sees me tossing in my
When I say I am free, I merely state a fact. If you are an adult,
you are free from infancy. I am
from all description and identification. Whatever you may hear, see,
or think of, I am not that. I
free from being a percept, or a concept.
Still, you have a body and you depend on it.
Again you assume that your point of view is the only correct one. I
repeat: I was not, am not,
not be a body. To me this is a fact. I too was under the illusion of
having been born, but my
made me see that birth and death are mere ideas -- birth is merely
the idea: 'I have a body'.
death -- 'I have lost my body'. Now, when I know I am not a body,
the body may be there or
not -- what difference does it make? The body-mind is like a room.
It is there, but I need not
in it all the time.
Yet, there is a body and you do take care of it.
The power that created the body takes care of it.
We are jumping from level to level all the time.
There are two levels to consider -- the physical -- of facts, and
mental -- of ideas. I am beyond
Neither your facts, nor ideas are mine. What I see is beyond. Cross
over to my side and see
What I want to say is very simple. As long as I believe: 'I am the
body', I must not say: 'God will
after my body'. God will not. He will let it starve, sicken and die.
What else do you expect from a mere body? Why are you so anxious
you think you are the body, you want it indestructible. You can
extend its life considerably
appropriate practices, but for what ultimate good?
It is better to live long and healthy. It gives us a chance to avoid
the mistakes of childhood and
the frustrations of adulthood, the miseries and imbecility of old
By all means live long. But you are not the master. Can you decide
the days of your birth and
We are not speaking the same language. Yours is a make-believe talk,
all hangs on
and assumptions. You speak with assurance about things you are not
Therefore, I am here.
You are not yet here. I am here. Come in! But you don't. You want me
to live your life, feel your
use your language. I cannot, and it will not help you. You must come
to me. Words are of the
and the mind obscures and distorts. Hence the absolute need to go
beyond words and move
to my side.
Take me over.
I am doing it, but you resist. You give reality to concepts, while
concepts are distortions of
Abandon all conceptualisation and stay silent and attentive. Be
earnest about it and all will
well with you.