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Saturday June 2, 2001
New Speedway Boogie

Please don't dominate the rap, jack, if you've got nothing new to say.
If you please, don't back up the track this train's got to run today.
I spent a little time on the mountain, I spent a little time on the hill
I heard someone say "Better run away", others say "better stand

Now I don't know, but I been told it's hard to run with the weight of gold,
Other hand I have heard it said, it's just as hard with the weight of lead.

Who can deny, who can deny, it's not just a change in style?
One step down and another begun and I wonder how many miles.
I spent a little time on the mountain, I spent a little time on the hill
Things went down we don't understand, but I think in time we will.
Now, I don't know but I was told in the heat of the sun a man died of cold.
Keep on coming or stand and wait, with the sun so dark and the hour so late.
You can't overlook the lack, jack, of any other highway to ride.
It's got no signs or dividing lines and very few rule to guide.

I saw things getting out of hand, I guess they always will.
Now I don't know but I been told
If the horse don't pull you got to carry the load.
I don't know whose back's that strong, maybe find out before too long.

One way or another, one way or another,
One way or another, this darkness got to give.

Posted by justthis

Without a comment reposted from newsgroup:


Ian Goddard ([email protected])
Subject: LOGIC of YOGA
Date: 1998/09/26



Originating in India in the 5th century AD, the
system of numeration used throughout the world
today has proven to facilitate extreme accuracy
in the modelling of the physical universe.

As we shall observe, the Hindu number system
also accurately models -- and thus explains and
validates as logical -- the core metaphysics of
the Hindu philosophy of yoga, or mystical union.
....HUGE SNIP.....


The goal of the practice of yoga is to condition
the mind to become like zero and in so doing, to
establish an identity-union between the finite
self, the Atman, and the infinite All, Brahman.

"Everything is 'I', and I am no thing."
Ramesh Balsekar, "The Final Truth" [8]

The traditional yoga lifestyle strives toward the
goals of asceticism, which seeks to zero-out all
desires, attachments, emotions, and ego clinging.
The goal of yoga is essentially to cause the mind
to become like zero. In fact, the goal of medita-
tion (the central feature of the yoga lifestyle)
is to zero-out thoughts, to zero-out the mind and
realize the true condition of reality... zero. To
know the supreme become like the supreme... zero.

"He who contemplates on absorbed
into space. . . think on the Great Void un-
ceasingly. The Great Void, whose beginning
is void, whose middle is void, [and] whose
end is void...By contemplating continually
on this, one obtains success [nirvana]."

The Siva Samhita [9]

Buddhists agree with Hindus:

"[I]t is only through the understanding of
voidness that liberation from cyclic exist-
ence is possible. ...Insight into voidness is
therefore called 'the gateway to liberation.'"

Geshe Rabten, "Echoes of Voidness" [10]


The central teachings of the philosophy of yoga
amount to a logical description of the differen-
tial structure of identity and the zero-sum of
all differences, proving that (1) the "All" can
be all and nothing (zero); (2) the arising of
infinite differences cannot constitute a devia-
tion from nothing (zero); and (3) the Absolute
(i.e., nonrelative) identity of each individual
entity, which is zero, equals the Absolute iden-
tity of the All, hence their logical union (yoga).

This essay clearly proves that the most radically
"mystical" and heretofore inexplicable aspects of
the Hindu philosophy of yoga are in fact logical.

--- (c) 1998 Ian Williams Goddard ---
- free to copy nonprofit with author attribution -
VISIT Ian Williams Goddard --------->

fragments, meister eckhart


Meister Eckhardt asked why people are reluctant to seek God in earnest.
Then he made this comment: When one is looking for something and sees no
sign that it is where he is searching, he will keep on looking there only
with painful reluctance. If, however, he begins to find traces of it, then
he will hunt gladly, gaily, and in earnest. The man who wants fire is
cheered by feeling warmth and then joyously looks for the blaze. It is like
that with people who ought to be seeking God: if they get no taste of the
divine sweetness, they drag; but if a man lies in wait until he does catch
the taste of the divine, ever afterwards he is a glad seeker of God.

posted by Terry Murphy

Hello NDS,

The following was sent to me by Fran Lorin.


Dear Friends and Relatives,

This was brought to my attention by a Nature loving friend; I
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on my Nature mailing list or if you would rather not be on
it. Thanks.

Fran Lorin


Dear NRDC Earth Activist,

I wanted to pass along to you the
following message describing my feelings about President
Bush's plan to drill the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, and
the urgent need for us to fight back. As an NRDC Earth Action
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-- encouraging them to join us in this critical battle.

Sincerely yours,
Robert Redford


Dear Friend,

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Some might find this link interesting. A few excerpts are included:




This paper explores the possibility that the square root of minus one
(a complex number in mathematical terms) is the correct symbol for
absolute Consciousness.

The square root of -1 is a better representation of consciousness than
infinity because the square root of -1 has an unsolvable quality while
infinity can be visualized as a lot of something.

Reality is based on paradox (life is full of twists and turns).
Therefore i (the square root of -1) is an apt representation since i to
the third power = -i, and i to the fifth power = i.

The square root of minus one is the geometric mean between opposites:
+1 / i = i / -1; and plus / i = i / minus; and Yang / i = i / Yin.
Another way of putting it is that i exemplifies nonduality.

But Moooom....
Do I have to?

Yes! This will root your 'I' out right square and you will be -1.

it's okay, i've got plenty of I-patches...


"My late master Rujing once held up a ball of mud to show his students the "single
bright jewel." Although it is as simple as placing a stone on a go board, it scoops out the
eyes of the Ancestors. Each of the Ancestors helps with this scooping out. The insides of
their eyes shine with radiance."


Posted by Andrew

"identification is separation"

freedom blossoms
in the heart of the one
who realizes that
no amount of identification
could possibly separate him
from his inseparable nature.


on Harsha Satsangh

The "I" structure still remains, as a tool to be used in this life, a
garment to wear. It is our illusions about it that have disappeared or
"burnt up."

Very well said, thank you. I used to believe in the concept that the
I-structure would disappear immediately upon realization... now I
understand the futility of that. The I-structure serves active human
life in expression, just like the structure of a tree serves life to
express itself as tree. Once the sense of a separate self has fallen
away, there is even an opportunity for the life-force to refine its
human I-structure.
Beautifully said! Reminds me of the Findhorn devas. :) The pear-tree
deva said:

"To you I am a being of great beauty because you contact the reality of
me:a being which is God, free, happy and expressing his perfect life.
Yet that rather spindly tree growing in the garden is my expression. Of
course you know that in blossom time the inner beauty is more apparent,
and also the fruit is a form which is clearly unique to me.
Nevertheless, you think
this tree is but a limited expression of me.
Come nearer and feel a oneness with the tree. Slip into its limbs
and feel the same unity that the tree spirit feels with it. Feel how
the spirit loves the tree, how it is the tree. We are one."


Posted on Harsha Satsangh

>Perhaps what James meant was that what is self-evident requires no proof.
>Dan put it beautifully earlier and defined the "You" (Welcome back brother).

Hi Harsha!

Great to hear from you!
And yes -- what is self-evident is
the end of any quest to find
truth in either the observations of
someone other, or some process
of proof that will give evidence
"later" ...

And, as you have pointed out
here and more recently
on Harsha Satsangh,
all debate about whether it is
full or empty, self or not-self,
ends with the self-evidence
of what has never not been
the case!


Here's something I wrote a couple years ago about nothing. Back then
nothing was really in fashion, but now nothing is no longer in fashion.


Suggested course titles:

Intro to No, Not, Nothing, Never, Nobody, Nohow, Negativity.

Why do Most Negative Words Begin with the Letter "N", and is this
in some Peculiar Way Related to the Fact that Most Words that Refer
to the Middle (Such as Mean, Median, Mode, Middlemost, Middling,
Meridian) Begin with the Letter "M," which is the Middle Letter in
the Alphabet?

Is 7-up Really the Uncola?

War, What is it Good for? Absolutely Nothing? You Decide!

Is there Anything besides Nothing and Everything?

Solution to the Zen Koan, "What is Nothing?"

Solution to the Yogi Berra Koan "Nobody goes to that Restaurant
anymore, it's too Crowded."

Beachcombing with a Metal Detector--People with Nothing but Time
to Kill? You Decide!

Jeff Rasmussen
Spirit of Tao Te Ching

Things are more like they are now, than they ever have been.

And I'm not as think as you stoned I am.

==Gene Poole==

Department of Redundancy Department,
Division of Unity, NDS

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From: "jb" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat Jun 2, 2001 6:10 pm
Subject: [NDS] Ego :-)
To: [email protected], [email protected]


A busy mind is running hot
Distinctions made where they should not
And if I were to make a prison of one kind
I would imprison with a 'scientific' mind

Coz even at the end of thinnest rope
It can only synthesize more hope
And what for some would be despair
For such a mind is only pulling out a hair

Such minds de-light in 'ego stuff'
And de-light more when the discussion will get rough
A high IQ will be to no avail
It will succeed to make a perfect jail

What is - apparently that bores
Thinking is what "ego" so adores
Intuition is its greatest threat
Circular thinking is what it's at

One clever sheep outside the flock
Could you show "ego" and ad hoc?
I'm sure you can't and no one can
But it will keep you talking man


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