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is Nonduality - Nondualism - Advaita? Jerry Katz, editor Would you mind terribly if I threw "nonduality" to the wind for a moment, and just said that I love you? --Tim Gerchmez You can come up with a very clear and concise articulation of nonduality, and you can speak of it over and over again, and you can attempt to align your activity to that articulation. But in fact, organically, unless you've surrendered to the Will of God, which is movement but in the domain of nonduality, any state of nonduality is not mature. --Matthew Files Encylopedia Britannica article Brief Explications Non duality is the _return or revival of Self_ gene poole The 'Nondual' perspective does not _abolish_ "duality", it _resolves_ it instead.... gene poole The nondual perspective is to me, the voluntary adoption of the attitude which allows surrender of personal identity. gene poole I see nonduality not as a destination or goal, but rather a quite marvelous "effect" of living a life of freedom. melody anderson Nonduality is the clear pool of awareness that remains once the 'white-water' of emotion (and emotional conflict) has ended. Melody Anderson Defining nondualism is like adding legs to a snake. Dan Berkow Nonduality can't be something that is used. It can't be employed at one time and not at another. Nonduality is what every moment of space-time-experience arises from and returns to. It is never absent from any moment of space-time-experience. It has no use, no value, from the usual perspectives of forming meaning and value. Dan Berkow The very meaning of NonDualism is that God is not separate from creation, from All That Is but instead is identical with it. dave hodges Nondualism: we're all the same. formerly shy In the world of duality some entities are said to be "too good to be true." However, those who live in the nondualistic state of consciousness beyond "good and evil" are actually "too true to be 'good.'" karczewski For me.... (nonduality) simply means.... being one with your duality. tg nonduality=thoughtless reality. stan alari Keep bumping into-I AM. This appears to be a limitation of the English language requiring a noun to put a verb in motion. Who is this I that I am? Non- duality would simply be: AM rusty I have determined that nondualism is a point of view. It is one that I sometimes choose to see and sometimes not. It is not death and it is not nirvana. A point of view. All we need. And, on another hand, it is just a word. Slackeaux Nonduality isn't about concepts; it is about getting rid of concepts, including a concept of absolute. Jan Barendrecht nonduality could be called the journey to resolve the relation between you, the other sentient beings and the objects, for once and forever. Jan Barendrecht In a nondual state there are no opposites. There is neither an awareness ofbeing passive nor an awareness of being active; awareness without content comes near. In a nondual state there is no contradiction or paradox; common language fails in its ability to describe events from a nondual perspective. The sense of "I am the doer" is permanently absent as is the sense of "I am not the doer"; what comes near is "things being done" as there is no "feeling" of I and there is no experiencer. Jan Barendrecht From the nondual perspective there is nothing to seek and transformations will be secondary effects. From the perspective of "ego", only when seeking is forgotten one will recognize what was never lost; on gradual awakening transformations can be painful as one's focus seems to be shifting or at times seems to be absent. Jan Barendrecht Considering the essence of Vedanta, the view that Atman is Brahman, in Western language this would boil down to: Nondualism is the view that immanence and transcendence are the same. Eventually with the explanation, "view" can become "fact", which is the nondual path. Jan Barendrecht Nonduality as the common platform is the state where self is no more. This is what unites all methods, paths and the "self-styled". As a matter of fact, this is what (this) website is conveying already by its diversity. It is the idea of a bouquet of different flowers standing in one vase and sipping the same water. Jan Barendrecht When I leave this digital domain and all the abstractions of thought and belief in this or that and wonder out amongst the giant oaks and beautiful maples, that is when I truly feel that everything is connected and I have a visceral experience of nonduality. Raven McCloud Put in simple language, the unceasing "experience" of one's "real nature" is nondualism. There is neither an "in" nor an "out", an "up" or a "down", "on" or "off". -unknown list contributor If duality might be compared to a (endlessly turning) wheel, nonduality might be more like an 'eel.' The more you try to grasp it, the faster it slips through your fingers and disappears. The solution is to remove both the grasper and the grasping from the equation. Then you ARE the eel, and nothing more need ever be said on the topic. Tim Gerchmez Nonduality is the only state there really is, and is as natural as breathing. To me, there is not a single "danger" in all of existence. To look at anything on "the path" as "dangerous" is to invite constriction and fear, both of which can be "trip-ups" in their own right. A simple, strong reminder to be aware and mindful at all times is all that is needed. Tim Gerchmez Nonduality is the natural state of reality, not a religion or cult or escape. Tim Gerchmez "Make a coin with only one side. Show it to me.
That's non-duality." She'Tara What if "nonduality" doesn't mean any Thing? If it "meant" some Thing then that Thing would be marked by comparison and contrast -- a whim of thought. Thinking about "nonduality" is just rampant word association -- there is just no object that corresponds to the mental notion. What one speaks of here in this discussion as "nonduality" is just an approach to the essence of Being-as-such -- a verbal dance around the Silence. Today there were many thoughts about "consciousness." Then suddenly thought came up short and stopped in its tracks. "Consciousness" refers to nothing but That which refers. It is just a rather pale cipher for the totality of lived perception. Thus, one says that All is Consciousness. Even a gray, overcast day is full of living color. Phil Burton Nondualism: "The awareness in which I find myself and of which my awareness is a part, is the awareness of that which some of us call God or Brahman." That Thou Art. Max if you believe that you have (or are) an enduring (immortal) soul then that is duality. If this belief is not held, that is nondual. When I look for my soul, all I can finally see is the whole of existence, the totality of the perceivable. I have no way of knowing where to draw a line so as to say "This side is me, that side is not me". So nonduality is not a belief, rather it is the absence of belief. Andrew Macnab There is not a separate parameter being aware of existence - not even a subtle projection of an imense diffused rarefied awareness. Matter gets thinner and thinner and more intelligent, but when it gets to the point of perception itself -- it vanishes. Awareness is the content, without another....and i feel this is the meaning of non-duality. Ivan Hmmm... A definition for "nonduality"? How can you define the undefinable? I think I'll go play. Spydir K nonduality: that which remains when dueling dualists are done dancing dueling-dualing duets. James Traverse Adwaita can only be realised on Moksha until then it is an impractible concept in a dualistic illusion. One still has to fight life's battles and complete one's karma no matter how non-dualistic one is. If one finds the place of duality in oneself one will find adwaita. Tony O'Clery Nonduality for me doesn´t mean to have no feelings. Just the other way around to be total alive and authentic. Joanna People imagine that non-duality means perfect bliss, yet my experience of non-duality was a paradoxical fusion of all opposites: ecstasy/agony, joy/sorrow, existence/nonexistence, form/formlessness, abundance/desolation. . . Non-duality isn't the absence of things we don't like, but the presence of everything on all-levels and no-levels simultaneously. All One equals alone equals all-one equals alone equals all-one in a never-ending cosmic spiral-loop.El Collie In love, there is only love, and that is the nonduality. To me, nonduality means the state of perpetual motion, like a river, of love, through the absence of love, toward love's source, till it reaches the ocean of love. And back again. A never ending cycle. Sky I see NONDUALITY as the Absolute REality. To me
NONDUALITY is Awareness not aware of Itself. As long as I
am aware of being conscious, I am not Absolute REality
and so am only a Dreamer dreaming all this. (Or
Consciousness writing the play.) The Dreamer dreaming is
in Dualitly as far as I am concerned. The highest state
of awareness seems to be Consciousness aware of itself or
I AM. If I were in Nonduality, I would not be writing
this. Anyway, it's all speculation and everything I say
is just a story...I sound like I'm serious but I have to
smile at my attempt to keep my story going. Do you watch
Voyager? The doctor on the ship is hologram and knows he
is not "real", an image only, but behaves as if
her were real and all the crew members treat him as real.
I feel like the doctor. To me, nondualism means we no longer stand at dawn to shoot each other down with archaic emotional pistols. Mark Otter Shakti is nonduality in drag... (okay, unadorned...) Mark Otter NONDUALITY: nothing exists completely separate or independent of anything else. Christopher Chase Nothing need vanish for one to realize that they *are* nonduality. It is a simple act of recognition. Nonduality, as pure being absolute, exists in every moment of awareness. In the simplest *and* the most complex of human experience, the Self shines the same, without effort or attachment to whatever is going on "around" it. Nonduality isn't a "place" our minds go to, it *is* the very essence of who we are. Jody The meditation/contemplation practice of Advaita Vedanta is a process whereby we reject anything that is not the Self. We are told over and over again that the Self, or Atman is like *nothing* we can think of. We are also told that the Self is inside us. So if we look for something inside us that is like *nothing* we can think of, we should be able to find our way back to our Self, which is really just *us* (the Self) fettered by an idea of "me". Jody Nondualism is the point between existence and non-existence. Similar to the concept of 'zero' Modesty Blaize Nondualism is the the grasp by consciousness that there is senior existencebeyond dichotomy. Nonduality is the outershell of Time-Space existence. Nondualism is the ALL beyond and before the particle; it is the ONE and zero contained on both sides of polarity, the UNI before all form. Vanna Bonta The doctrine of nonduality looks down on all effort towards realization. Nonduality doctrine is the very advanced stage of the spiritual quest, a stage beyond effort. But, while one remains identified with thoughts of nonduality and has not had experential glimpses of the truth, one would be better off investigating the various forms of subtle effort which lead to stillness of mind. Roger Isaacs The greatest myth perpetuated by religions of all
stripes is that we are somehow separate from God. In
truth, we are not! The myth on this list is that we are
dual and must discover the truth about non-duality.
Therefore we keep telling each other how to do it and
what we must do or not do to realize IT. Michael Read Nonduality: Much ado about nothing. Ed Arrons Nonduality is about the evolvement of thinking without boundaries... seeing the universe in all things, coming to understand the totality of all things and the deep interrelatedness of it all. Zenbob Imagine that you are surrounded by all the images of
good and bad in you and your life. People, places,
things, beliefs, emotions, experiences, memories, etc.
Now imagine that you are not affected by any of this and
that none of this has anything to do with who you are.
This is a non-dualistic view of life. This is also
Enlightenment. This is how ultimate Peace and Serenity is
discovered. How you can live in the Flow all the time.
This is the True nature of the Universe, the Unified
Field, God. That condition of 'nonduality' cannot be an object of contemplation or discussion. As soon as something is discussed, contemplated, or argued for, it becomes that which is 'dual,' a concept or an idea. There may be many aspects of 'Truth' or living which are capable of being discussed in various forums, but in and of itself that condition cannot be immediately a topic. There is nothing particularly mysterious about this fact, which has been oft noted, but rarely accepted. Petros Nondualism is a mind that no longer needs to analyze reality into its essential components. Reality presents itself as a seamless unity. It is the movements of mind that define conflicts and differences that need to be resolved. Nondualism is not a mind of negation. It is a mind that no longer makes positive assertions, having come to realize that such assertions are the underlying creative basis of manifold existence. It is a mind that, out of its compassion for those who suffer, chooses to come to rest. John Bird Oral nondualism seems to be "talking the talk", an easy thing for most and a sneaky little trap when we can do it eloquently. Then there is the matter of "walking the walk". However i dont think nondualism is something that we do or not do. It isnt something that we can practice. There is no such thing as nondualistic activities as opposed to dualistic activities. Nonduality is simply the context of all manifestation. There is however enlightened duality. Matthew Files ...to get a taste of what nonduality is one has to have a silent base from daily meditation practice and a desire to know some how what it means to transcend the self to be come oneself by self observation, present moment practice. Other than this if there is no transformation and living from a selfless state, all the nonduality lingo is really in vain. The planet is doomed. People will marry and divorce on more frequent basis, Nihilist mind will take over, Chaos and the most primal instinct will run rampant, after all....Hell there is nothing to gain nor lose. Why don't we just have our selves a pleasent Babylonian Orgy. A C Crowley can be the bartender too. Alan Kuntz Non-duality, in discussion, does become a belief system....and it contains all the elements of the cultural basket in which it is carried...in our case, the threads of western modalities on individuality, personal power and self-worth, hierarchy, authority, etc. Of its nature, non-duality as a state of mind, is concerned with none of those things.....it is simply the natural state of being which does not compare, evaluate, divide, intellectualize or even understand; it simply throbs to the rhythm of the universe, resonates with, not against....as a process of exploring that state of mind we find that resonating against points us toward resonance with....there are no oppositions...only the perception of opposition. Kristi Shelloner The nondual perspective, as I see it, and I am flawed, is: being/becoming ...seeking/finding ... knocking/opening ... each a singular idea. When one 'tires' of 'endless' seeking; one finds. When one 'tires' of 'endless' knocking; one sees the door is open. Tim Harris Nondualism speaks of the interval between yin and yang, and is residence in the 'neither this nor not this'. The interval is not a separate reality. It is reality. Jerry Katz Nonduality isn't about that, and it isn't about a lot of things, and it isn't about nonduality at all. Jerry Katz Nonduality includes the notion that words can be harmful indeed, that nothing is understood, could care less about manifestations of some conceptual infinite and nonduality is perfectly fine without transcendence of any sort. Nonduality is total embrace, and embraces every new concept, in order to remain nondual. This is sometimes referred to as love as well. --Mira (Mirror) Scientific proof of non-duality? Think of Nonduality Non-duality: means not two. Is the nature of unity. In
such an experience, the individual transcends personal
boundaries (ego) and merge with everything beyond
themself via direct connection with the greater presence
of Consciousness that lies not just within the
individual, but also beyond. From such, there no longer
appears to be a difference or distinction between the
individual (subject/observer) and the experienced
universe (object/observed). Observer and the observed
become one and the same. Non-dualist: Someone whose ideal is to entirely merge
with Brahman, losing all sense of individuality. Brahman:
The supreme Godhead, beyond all distinctions or forms;
ultimate Reality [from brih.: that which expands] One zen abbot said "things become very close" when asked what nonduality looked like and he was right. Nonduality is about vanishment of the seer, the observer, it's not more difficult (or not easier) than that. Some ppl have compared it with turning inside out and having everything happen inside one instead of outside like before and in that, there isn't even a witness to speak of. --Fireceremony ...the Non-Dual paradigm is simply when the world is Known as empty in nature and therefore part and parcel of Source..... it remains no longer felt as duality that is separated into God versus Man..... Source/Creation are not two....... --Ganga Karmokar Here are three different definitions, having to do
with the nature of all things: I remember years ago an episode of 'The Beverly
Hillbillies' in which Jethro, while on an airline flight,
recited a riddle to an attractive stewardess, to whom he
was attracted. He hoped to impress her with his
cleverness: The ego, body, mind mechanism is conciousness. Yah, it's the old you are what you seek definition. It's a no frills advaita, one might say. Nothing is left out, nobody is excluded and there is nothing to do. --Michael Read |
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