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Non-duality press publishes books on the contemporary expression of Advaita by mostly western authors and speakers.

RADIANT MIND
The Effortless Way of Nondual Presence. Peter Fenner's 8 month experiential course. Endorsed by Ken Wilber, Isaac Shapiro, Robert Thurman, Chuck Hillig. Video interview

"The Enlightenment Trilogy"
by Chuck Hillig
Enlightenment for Beginners Read the Reviews
The Way IT Is
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Seeds for the Soul
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Standing as Awareness, by Greg Goode. "The clearest book I have ever read about nonduality."  -Lex Samu
"Takes you to a new place of awareness using explanations and tools you likely have never before experienced." -Jerry Katz

 
 

 

 

What is Nonduality - Nondualism - Advaita?
Jerry Katz, editor

Encylopedia Britannica article

Traditional

Various authors and teachers

Brief Explications

Lengthier Explications

From What Is Enlightenment magazine

From 'A Brief History of Everything', by Ken Wilber


Secondary Nondualism and Ultimate Nondualism of Da Free John

Meeting the Great Bliss Queen: Buddhists, Feminists and the Art of the Self, by Anne Carolyn Klein

The Rotten Root, by Drew Hempel

Advaita Vedanta web site FAQ

Lengthier Explications

Jan Barendrecht

Nonduality is an ordinary fact of everyday life for some thirty years and the way how Buddhism describes it comes very close. The car is being driven, the walk is undertaken, this reply is being written and there is nobody pondering over what exactly to write. It is so simple and ordinary that anyone writing a book about it is considered suspect of either putting existing theory into "own' words or relating to experiences like samadhis. Sahaja samadhi isn't a samadhi in the ordinary sense as one "doesn't come out of it". What's more, as this wasn't an achievement but came naturally in the course of events, instead of following scriptures and lineage, it was just a matter of comparing the various existing expressions and selecting what comes nearest. Strictly speaking, ordinary language with "I", "me", "mine" and "you" means continuous lying as the meaning of these words is lost forever. But lies is what present day society is all about; who cares :) So it is obvious there is neither negation nor affirmation, neither I nor you, neither nothingness nor fullness; neither nirvana nor samsara. Or put simply: a painting of a mango won't satisfy one's appetite and the description of the mango on the painting doesn't stimulate the appetite for those, not knowing the taste of mangos. The real question of course is, without having met a picture of a mango, how would one describe the taste of nonduality? So it comes to no surprise that everyone raised in a 'system' will affirm that system, confirming the dictum "as you meditate, so you become". The Buddha was one of the few exceptions
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Strictly speaking, nondualism is knowing one's real nature. Not knowing intellectually but by "experience" (for the lack of an appropriate expression). Although the transformations could be seen as "peeling the onion", leaving one's real nature without the slightest veil, there's more to it than just peeling the onion. Somewhere I came across the dictum "fear is the main weakness of the flesh". For an a-regenerate, the fear consists of loosing the body. For a regenerate, the fear is gone but there is a reaction, the "jump" to the Immovable. When transformations are completed, the "jump" consists of closing the eyes and ceasing to breathe. This means a transformation has to take place to accommodate the body-mind so that nothing happening to it will subjectively change anything or cause pain etc..
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This bypasses the entire field of siddhis, as they are a mere spin-off. From the perspective of "peeling" however, siddhis wouldn't arise but from the perspective of transformations the siddhis can even be acquired (not recommended).
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From the nondual perspective there is nothing to seek and transformations will be secondary effects. From the perspective of "ego", only when seeking is forgotten one will recognize what was never lost; on gradual awakening transformations can be painful as one's focus seems to be shifting or at times seems to be absent.
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Non-duality isn't experienced. All experience has a beginning and an end; one's real nature hasn't. As this real nature doesn't depend on anything, no duality is required. There doesn't have to be a one - a symbol for infinity is zero (a one bent into a circle). Another "explanation" is that one's real nature is pure consciousness which is the basis for everything, so what one observes are but its manifestations. It is the analogy that seeing the moon reflected in thousand mirrors doesn't make a thousand moons.
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If the word would have been singularity (condition of being one) instead of nonduality, would you have arrived at the idea of negation? The "official" meaning of nonduality is: "the interconnectedness of everything, which is founded in the singularity of the transcendental Reality". It is quite possible to arrive at the singularity by what is called a dualistic path; the Sufi Hallaj is an example. "Negate" (neti-neti, not this, not that) is a tool of the nondual path. There is ambiguity over the meaning of a nondualist; my proposal is to call a practitioner of the nondual path a nondualist and one "arrived" at the singularity a "singularist" or a "singularian". As it is a new word, no misunderstanding is possible.
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Because of the Christian tradition, duality is accepted as a "norm" and as long as one experiences or can be the witness there is no contradiction. Even a small glimpse of oneness will change this. Desire for Oneness, Truth, Love, it sinks very deeply and does its work. It is an act of Grace that there is no escape from Oneness. Yet there are dualists, acknowledging the states of Self-realization and liberation, but giving a dual interpretation (Madhva philosophy) that is also based on Vedanta. In the Patanjali sutras nondualism isn't mentioned, although one "comes out" as a nondualist. Surrender could be called practical nondualism, because the "I" is put to inactivity. It is perceived as duality because the "I" still is present and when the "I" starts to loosen its grip, this dissolving "I" will experience Love. What is important, is if and how one's daily life is influenced, either by awareness of "I AM", or by surrender etc. Does this in turn influence meditation?
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I hope this clears misunderstandings about samadhis and the impression they leave on the mind. It has become very obvious that Patanjali, describing liberation as a succession of transformations, is right; after each transformation, functioning is different from the 'before'. Rightly, Patanjali avoids the entire discussion of dualism - the non-dual state is natural and unavoidable, if one's progression allows it. So there is hope for everyone.
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Even to me the sky always is looking different. The hue is never the same; it depends on the position of the sun, the convection in the upper atmosphere and the time of year to name a few variables.. Compared to the end of June, the sunlight now has a red-shift because of the lower angle of incidence. If you would be an empath, you would know how sensitive your animals are and how they are responding even when the eyes don't detect it. Interpretation is always dependent on the input from the limited senses and the knowledge in the mind. So one cannot deny the existence of sentient beings and objects; nonduality could be called the journey to resolve the relation between you, the other sentient beings and the objects, for once and forever.
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The dictionary says: Religion, a system of thought, feeling, and action shared by a group that gives members an object of devotion; a code of ethics governing personal and social conduct; and a frame of reference relating individuals to their group and the universe. A nondualist doesn't have an object of devotion; this would be dualism. A code of ethics and a frame of reference, yes, but it serves as a reminder to: what is a nondualist? Someone following a nondual path, someone in a permanent nondual state or someone aspiring such a state? The question isn't theoretical; one code of ethics is to forsake the first nondual state (nirvana) until all sentient beings are enlightened. Remains the frame of reference - is it Self or is it Void? If the first group is called A-voiders, the second group will be named Voiders - sounds almost like the days of old with the debates between Advaitas and Buddhists (in these modern times, why not soccer games instead of debates?). Perhaps being is common to all.
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Duality: change can only be observed when something else is changing differently - one event serving as the reference for another event. The passing of time will be innerly observed (felt) when one's ever changing mind (with moods) is the reference. From duality to nonduality: transformation of sentient being into unlimited being (called God, Love, Bliss, Void - depending on one's frame of reference). *
Nonduality: A change can only be observed when something is unchanging - all events are referenced to the unchanging. The experience of time passing by will cease when the unchanging becomes the "reference".

* The transformation also implies one's insight and knowledge will steadily change - illustrated nicely by the following excerpt:
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The beauty of nondual states is the absence of concepts. It is an obstacle to think some concepts have to be mastered. Get rid of concepts - they are fetters. We all know the "expected" behavior of saints and yogis. It is the Eastern concept of saintliness. Now look how some are behaving in the West - all of a sudden, they are falling prey to what we call "temptations". Are they "lesser" saints and yogis because of it? No, they just couldn't live up anymore to their cultural concepts of "saintly" behavior. Everything "swept under the carpet" will break loose when it is least expected.
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Nonduality comes from a time when scientists used to "attain" a nondual state (there are many). In a nondual state, there is no "I" in the form of experiencer or observer. It is a known fact that sense perception is possible without being conscious of it; retrieval is possible under hypnosis. In a nondual state, this "unconscious recorder" is the normal mode of perception - perceiving without experiencer. This development is often thought to be a side-effect of Kundalini and starts with things like over-active senses. The "I" is only basic for self-preservation of beings below a certain level of self-consciousness. When self-consciousness exceeds this level, the species will self-destruct unless the members "destroy" self (the "I"). Strange as it may seem, Self-realization is a "built-in" necessity for survival of the species. A nondual state could be called a state of "unconditional well-being" so "world" and "other" beings are treated very differently. Unless one "attains" nirvana at an early age, it is likely one will have a partner and offspring; many Indian saints, sages and even the Buddha had. When Buddhism was flowering, nirvana (with substratum remaining) was quite normal for householders.
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If the word would have been singularity (condition of being one) instead of nonduality, would you have arrived at the idea of negation? The "official" meaning of nonduality is: "the interconnectedness of everything, which is founded in the singularity of the transcendental Reality". It is quite possible to arrive at the singularity by what is called a dualistic path; the Sufi Hallaj is an example. "Negate" (neti-neti, not this, not that) is a tool of the nondual path. There is ambiguity over the meaning of a nondualist; my proposal is to call a practitioner of the nondual path a nondualist and one "arrived" at the singularity a "singularist" or a "singularian". As it is a new word, no misunderstanding is possible.

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Rik Wallace

To be frank would be dishonest as I AM. I have nothing really to say about nonduality, so perhaps I'll humbly offer some perception-altering distractions in which you are free to find "wisdom" if you find such pursuits entertaining. A page on this site credited to the name "Harsha" contained the phrase "You are already Wide Awake!" So what. I am not a Sage. I am not even ordinary. I AM means nothing to me. If you find wisdom in these words, then why are you reading them? If you want my opinion, I will NOT give it to you, as your own are causing you enough problems as it is. However I will offer advice freely as I find it confusing and would rather dispense it. But for wisdom... sorry, you are on your own. What makes 'non-duality' so special? As if there were an option...'Here' is a word of advice. I have but one mission in life and that is to finish this sentence. Now that I have completed that one, I would like to be reincarnated as the next sentence. The greatest tradeoff of living life in full awareness is missing out on what you aren't paying attention to. The greatest pity is that you don't even notice. So if I spend every moment obsessed with worries, regrets, and distractions, do I not have Buddha nature? Aleister Crowley is known for quoting, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law." Now I am too. 'Non-violence' is indeed the supreme principle. Your demons cannot hurt you, because there are no demons. You are free to believe as you wish, so long as it is the truth. Why would you want to be a sage, when there are so many other valid career options? The perception that sages are more ordinary than the rest of us can lead to a profound sense of confusion. Have compassion for sages - they know not what they do. I would like to be remembered as someone long forgotten. I am you in another life. In my age I frequently forget details of my past, but they soon reappear, much to my dismay. Call it karma. Forgive me - I haven't had an original memory in several seconds. I can't seem to shake my attachment to this language thing. When I went blank a moment ago, I thought "Yes!" so I'm still typing in English. Dang. So, like, I'm reading this email, right?...and I'm thinking to this person "What an idiot! You have no clue!" And then I remember I'm proofreading what I wrote myself just a minute ago. Funny that it's so easy to forget who I'm criticizing from moment to moment, and I just chalk it up to self-consciousness. I need to have more compassion for myself... we're all one afterall. Everything is connected by utter randomness. Here'a controversial thought to ponder. This just goes to show what can happen when you place consideration of others' words above your own. Who is the voice in your head. The attainment of nondual awareness has already happened many times when you weren't looking. The only way my words are relevant to your search is that you know you are reading them. Deal with it. Let's face it - nonduality is a no-brainer. It takes no effort to experience. Everyone does it all the time without noticing. Yet it's all anyone yaps about. If you doubt me, shut up, smile, and just look for yourself. "So baby, like what are you doing when you're not paying attention?" Now. That has nothing to do with nonduality. Perhaps there is nothing more to this than you like to think'. Yes, my love, it is true I do not want to hear that my words have inspired you, that they have moved you, that they have given you meaning. Mere words cannot change they way you are, and they can give you nothing that you have not already. Please forget my words, and I will do what I must, my love, to help you forget me. Forget what was said. I grant you 'this'. Are you happy? Are you really happy? Your answer is of concern. If you are still reading, be assured, from the depths of my heart that I haven't noticed. I cannot help but to care enough about you not to. Love is indeed the supreme principle. Smile.

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Rony Mishal

On the one hand non-duality implies that there is no becoming, there is no continuity to I, there is nowhere that psychological patterns can hold. This is true and valid for Now. From non-duality the current events are seen for what they are and released from their psychlogical pattern forming impact through the nature of the seeing itself. But what happens with past patterns, especially the wounding ones? There is some problem here because they cannot be seen as "non-existing thought patterns" by the one that was hurt, because he is not here anymore. So the wound and the wounded are tied up, and it seems that there is no way out. I found it very helpful to look at past wounds as non-separate from the entity that was hurt - and do nothing. Not even naming what is happening. This is sometimes very emotional, but somehow I have found myself emerging out of this a bit cleaner and lighter.

Dr. Harsh K. Luthar

Whatever can be undermined is not Self-Existent and Real. Therefore, while Oneness and Non-Duality are useful concepts, there is no point in holding on to them as substantial. To one who Knows the Self, the question of detachment is moot. If dualism is sought to be rejected as a philosophy, it only proves and reinforces dualism. In order to reject something, there must be the rejecter, the process of rejecting, and that which is rejected. So Truly Great Sages emphasize a Deep Acceptance of Divine Love and Awareness. This Acceptance leads to Stillness and Silence. When All concepts, (including that of detachment, non-duality, rejecting duality, etc.) vanish, Reality is experienced as It is in Absolute Nakedness. It is only the inner core of One's Own Being. It Is What You Already Are. This is the ancient message of the Sages. We renew this Message by knowing the Reality of the Self that We Are. Self-awareness and Satsanga facilitate Self-Recognition and Realization.

Greg Goode

There's no way *not* to live non-duality -- everyone is being lived this way all the time, even if we think we're not. This is the teaching of non-duality. Non-duality is not something that we must make true. It can't NOT be so.

Here are some slice-of-life descriptions of experience that you might call mine, say in the last week. And how the being lived has a certain sweet fragrance that isn't an experience. Skye and I once had a few wonderful slice-of-life exchanges like this, and I still remember them clearly.

Working, commuting on a crowded, hot, muggy, humid subway. Teaching computers, having to talk 8 hours a day some weeks. Friends breaking up. Girlfriend with Chicken pox. Friends living with AIDS, some smiling, some not smiling. Married couple, husband cheating on wife, telling everyone about it, she in pain. My eating too much too late, waking up with a stomach ache. Riding my bike through the city, no breaks, no gears, fixed-gear track bike, Zen-like motion connected to everything going on around. Taking dance-skating lessons, loving it but not being very good or having much time to practice. Weekly meditation meeting/satsang. Helping a friend buy new wardrobe. Attending the Budha's Birthday celebration at a local Chan temple. Talking and corresponding with many people on the phone, in e-mail, in person, about non-duality. Going to the gym. Burning special Japanese incense. Not getting enough sleep. Paying bills. Reading Western philosophers who are similar to Nagarjuna in some respects. ....

The basic fragrance is an unbroken totally sweet miraculousness. Totally unaffected by the details of what happens. Things that happen are not really things at all, and do not happen by magic, or through a mechanistic scientific causal process. But a present miraculousness. Nothing left out.

It is not all pleasant, but it is all fine, perfect is-ness, because there's no other way for IS-ness to be. Good day, Fine! Bad day, Fine! No difference, no distance. The meditation and bike riding can be seen as metaphors for how everything is, smoothly connected and not separate from anything. Things that aren't pleasant aren't in any way more or less separate than things that are pleasant - the difference is the same as the color red versus green. None of it ever seems like an "I" or "you" is doing it, it's all very direct, clear, very here and immediate, "things as it is." There's no thought that things should be this way, or that they should be some other way. No thought ever of a Greg or any other entity striving or grasping or letting go of anything. No thought that anything needs to be maintained or chased after or watched or kept. No thought that this is separate from what-is. No thought that a gap exists or must be bridged. Everything taking care of itself, in a smooth, uninterrupted flow. And the flow isn't even a flow - it is just called a flow, the word arising in the context of this writing.

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Defining Nonduality

Gene Poole

As much as I appreciate the ongoing effort to correctly define and describe the 'nondual experience', I would point out that "there is an intelligence which intends to communicate with us", which itself appears as Maya.

One may say that it is the 'projector' of Self which is beckoning us to meaning; one may say that "I am that intelligence", etc. What one may say, is said to be limited by mind and language; yet, one is taught or instructed on how to say, how to see, how to Be.

In any event, as we record our experiences, there arises evidence that our 'awakening' is arranged; that we are indeed being prompted to 'understand' and to 'know'. In my view, the 'nondual experience' is had, upon the silent admission that there is indeed 'something' which begins a dialog or conversation with us, encouraging and teaching, leading us to grapple with the issues and illusions which are in effect, classroom materials for the aspiring student.

I point to the 'Guru-function', which 'masqeuerades' as 'Maya'. The nondual experience admits the Guru. Only later, could the student 'say' that 'there is no Guru' and refer to 'Maya' as meaningless data-display, sans interpretation.

That such may be said 'later', post-experience, may lead the (new) reader to assume that there is no 'parent'. This itself may be useful, leading to seeing no 'external or separate' parent or pedagogue, and thus pointing to self as parent. Self as parent ("none-other") will eventually fade as reality, leaving only the primary relationship of student/Guru. Even the concept of separation will fade, far beyond questions of 'separate/non-separate'. What I cannot deny is the leading, teaching, encouraging of 'not-me', that which is 'greater' and which is teaching me. I stand comfortably 'next to' that which I speak of; I am safe there; the only 'danger' comes from any tendency to identify as 'that'.

Parent/Guru/Pedagogue/Psychopomp/Hierophant does indeed act and influence. The inexpressability-factor comes into play here, and it is partly ego which is responsible for the difficulty of expression of this always-present but 'hidden in plain sight' 'Guide-On' intelligence. Ego would rather have 'inexpressibility' than to have to admit that there is 'something greater' at work and at large.

The pure and pristine and dispassionate expressions of the summarized or 'boiled-down' description of the 'nondual experience', is lacking the clue which is provided by the (very) _existence_ of the actual living human 'guru'. The human Guru exists as the clue to the reality of the Greater; even though the Guru says so, the student takes it for metaphor. The Guru's function is to teach us how to talk, and it does so by speaking in the way of the Guru.

Thus, to say 'inexpressible' is to bypass the final lesson, and thus skip the final test, leaving the entire issue to be a nebulae of speculation and thus contention. There is indeed a Master Voice which is teaching us how to talk; there is no problem, as long as one does not conclude and move on, thus creating an improper and unstable foundation for further movement. It is all process, with only the Guru-student relationship as the sole stable factor, the one that never goes away.

The Guru who is invisible, unheard, still exists, beyond denial, teaching us how to talk. To be able to talk without conclusion is the art of the 'true pedagogue', the one who beckons. Moving in that direction begins our allowance that the Guru may be seen and heard.

Gene Poole's Home Page

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Dan Berkow

Fully nondual awareness isn't against anything. This is what Blake suggests when he advises to look directly at this instant as it is, these particulars. Intellect can be contrasted with emotion, experience with nonexperience. "Nondual Reality" is beyond any of these categories. It's nonexperience and nonbeing as much as experience and being - thus, unspeakable. It's not nonconceptual apart from conceptualization, nor nonconstructed reality apart from constructions. Beyond cognition, yet cognizing; beyond constructs, yet contructing! This is *its* nature - and certainly *it* is no-it, and thus it "has" no nature -- it's nature is no-nature!!

To say there is an intellectual grasp of it is silly, because the intellect cannot function in an intellectual way regarding nonduality. The intellect can recognize its limitations and focus on its "realm," allowing what is beyond itself to "be". In other words, the intellect can realize itself as constructed by something beyond itself and unknowable, used by That which it cannot use, know, or articulate.

Releasing conceptual identifications

I'm not an expert.
Because I'm not an
expert, there is no
knowledge I need to
retain.
Free from knowledge,
Being reveals itself
as such.

Advaita, "non-twoness"
the non-split,
non-separated,
non-dichotomous nature
of actual reality
is not a point of view.

Any point of view is opposed
by a differing point of view.

So advaita isn't a point of view.

To make "not-two" into a point of
view that can be accepted as
a conceptual arrangment that is
plausible would be to take
advaita for what it is not.

Thus, It isn't plausible or not plausible.

It isn't a conceptual arrangement of
facts and insights.

"Not this, not that" ...
it is by releasing onself
from anchoring concepts
with which one identifies
that one comes to the
nonconceptualizable Truth
that is "not-two".

Moller de le Rouviere

Based on my own experience allow me the following.

Non-duality is not created and sustained by thought. It may include thought when thought is present, but is based as an unfathomable, centreless sense of being, inherently not interested in objectifying itself as verbal definition and description. Not having its source in thought, no amount of thinking can reveal the truth of the non-fragmented disposition we refer to as non-duality.

We can say then that any thought we may believe we hold 'about' non-duality is of necessity an illusion. Such a thought is created and sustained by thought itself, which we have seen to be not the thing itself.

So whether we think about non-duality or not, or whether we believe that our thinking about non-duality has any reference whatsoever with the actual living reality of centreless being, is totally besides the point. It stands 'besides the point' as something categorically different to the genuine article. Thought is about, and 'about' is not the living reality of the thing itself.

This realisation, and by realisation I do not mean any form of mental clarity, intellectual argument, thought-created certainty, but rather the revelation as living reality, is not generally our disposition when we start out on the path of self-enquiry. We start out as thought constructs called 'I', conditioning, psychological problems and complexities, unresolved emotional issues, fear and so on. In other words we start out as seekers for freedom from our perceived problems. If we were all happy, fulfilled human be-ings, would we feel the need to enter into this absurdity called the spiritual path? We won't, because the path itself is a measure of our unhappiness and insanity. The free, sane person has no need for such absurdities as sitting quietly for hours practicing meditation, counting his breath, trying to become quiet, relax out of contracted states of emotion and thought, or try to appear clever by writing about all the highest truths obtained from books and scriptures.

So it is perfectly clear to me, and this much my practice has revealed to me, that despite all the very clever arguments my thinking could conjure up over the years relating to concepts of wholeness and the obvious non-dual quality of experience and so on, behind even these most clear and insightful thoughts, lurked the separate one. All these thoughts appeared to 'me'. So although profoundly clear about all the arguments presented by my own enquiry and intellectual endeavour (including deep insights during profoundly quiet times of meditative practice) about the non-dual 'nature' of myself, and everything else, over time it became clear to me that I was still separate and unwhole. The most reasonable deduction that could be made from this was that perhaps I was using the wrong instrument to reveal the wholeness to me.

It became clear to me that thought can ask questions it simply cannot answer. Also it can make statements about things it has absolutely no ability to get 'in touch' with. Or to become one with. My thoughts about non-duality were as empty as the religious mind's thoughts about metaphysical projections. It became clear then that although I could reasonably pin down a great many (if not all) of my problems to thought, thought itself had no ability to bring the answers which would be living reality rather than just another opposite thought pojected to counter the presumed 'cause' of the original problem.

This was a watershed realisation in my own practice. When it became clear that thought cannot answer the problems of'I' consciousness, and other such disturbances in the field of consciousness it has created. Any attempt by thought to bring freedom from these many disturbing aspects of being, was now seen as more of the same thing. Thought cannot wash away thought. It can only try to suppress it with some presumed 'higher thought', or counter a fondly held argument with some more refined argument. But in either case thought is still the active principle, and cannot relieve itself of itself by itself. And as it is with this thought with which we are so profoundly identified, no freedom is possible within thought.

But this is a profound insight. It has to reveal itself through meticulous introspection. So that it does not just become again the truth of another being taken by thought and projected as a liberating principle or delusiory opposite. In this way,( Dan), the wheel has to be re-invented each one for h/herself. There are as many paths as there are practitioners or enquirers. But what has to be revealed as a fundamental interim truth and reality by such enquiry, is that thought is not the thing. The talk about non-duality, the thinking about non-duality is false. Not because the thinking process itself is false, but because thought can only project its own version (mental creation) of these matters. And it becomes a double lie if we propagate these illusiory, conceptually created, projections as having anything whatsoever to do with the living reality of the non-fragmented being. This is what I have once described in a post on HarshaSatsangh as the Advaitist's dream.

And because very few know the way from here, partially because the latter-day Advaitist guru's proclaim that the thought IS the thing, and so the idea ABOUT the non-dual state IS the thing itself, and so we are ALREADY 'THERE' so no work needs to be done, the enquiry has become stultified and this stultification has taken on the epidemic proportions so-called Western Advaita is suffering, unknowingly, from. This dream has now become reality. And this dream is being repeated, and has now become 'conventional wisdom' or ' perfectly obvious' to all.

It is only obvious as a thought. Nothing else. Not unlike the existence of god being obvious to the religious mentality. There is absolutely nothing obvious about non-duality or non-doing. It is just thought presenting clever arguments to itself, and then believes its own arguments to be the thing itself, or ralating to the thing itself.

Ignorance is nothing other than thought mistaking its own creations for reality. It is what keeps the dream of subjectivity alive. Because despite all the procrastinations form all the pseudo-advaitists on these lists, theytill suffer the very same thing they are pretending to one another to have left behind somewhere in the dungeons of their own minds. Nothing has been left behind. The 'I' is still there, with each and every futile explanation towards this conceptually created madness called non-dualism. It is the very essense of dualism.

Once this problem of the monkey chasing its own tail has been seen as the very principle of delusion, we may start to enquire whether there may be something that could be done, which does not perpetuate the very thing we are trying to get away from. Before that, any proposition that there is no-where to go, nothing to do, no-doer from the start, and so on, is always, already part of the fragmented being's desparate attempt at pretending it is not real, and does not exist. But both its pretence and its existence remain in tact as its existence. Mind on mind. Concept on concept. Delusion on delusion.

The dream continues unabated. And with it, human suffering.

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Tim Gerchmez

Nonduality is a perspective on the nature of reality (reality being anything that you would consider real or that exists), nothing more and nothing less. It can be viewed from a spiritual angle, from a scientific angle (I would venture to say many quantum physicists would agree with the nondual perspective), or any other angle you can think of.

Nonduality says that at the core of all existence, everything and everybody is one, a single homogenous entity. In other words, if you "boil down" everything that exists, both perceived and unperceived (and as we all know, our senses are limited), the result would be one single thing. From that single thing, all multiplicity is derived. Without that thing (whatever it may be), nothing whatsoever would or could exist.

It's substantially more difficult to define what that "thing" or that homogenous entity is, what it consists of. Everyone seems to have a slightly different idea about it. The fact is, the single homogenous nondual entity cannot be comprehended by the mind at all. Since that entity is the *primal cause* of everything else, it cannot normally be seen directly. However, since the nondual perspective also holds that in truth there is nothing but that entity (and all differentiation is actually that entity filtered through the mind and the senses), it can be said that all the different things we see around us are actually that entity itself. In other words, since there is really no differentiation or variation at the most primal level, everything that we see as differentiated is really that single entity itself, *in that entity's totality*.

This is a hard concept to grasp, and one that gives a newcomer to the nondual perspective no easy time. How can each different person or thing we see around us be that absolute, single entity *in its entirety*? Well, think of it this way: Since nothing really exists but that one homogenous entity, we must be under some sort of delusion when we see subjects and objects, when we see differentiation. A newcomer to nonduality will invariably find this idea dangerous and threatening, but think about what science tells us: Touch a hard surface, and what you're touching is really mostly empty space. On a smaller scale, the space between individual atoms is greater than the distance from the Earth to the Sun. In other words, everything is composed mostly of empty space, and when we touch a hard surface and find it solid, that perception is simply a delusion created by the senses. And so it is with the delusion of differentiation.

Another way to look at it is this: Think of how we endlessly create and un-create differentiation on a psychological level. For example, what you call a "computer" is actually a complex mix of parts; a case, a motherboard, a power supply, etc. Each of these parts is further subdivided into electrical components, and so on, until we see that a "computer" is actually a big lump of molecules that can be further subdivided into atoms, quarks, and so on. Nonduality applies this kind of thinking to reality itself, stating that at the base of everything, there is a "Ground of Being" or substratum, and that everything is actually "made of" this substratum. A jar is an arbitrary term for a piece of glass, and so also a jar or a person or an automobile is an arbitrary term for the primal homogenous entity. Everything is interconnected at the deepest level, is really one thing at the most basic level.

Differentiation is like waves on the surface of the ocean. Couldn't you say that each wave is really the ocean itself, not "part of" the ocean? You can't separate a wave from the ocean. It *is* the ocean. If all waves on the ocean subside, only the ocean remains. So it is with differentiation, which arises like waves on the "surface" of the primal homogenous entity.

In addition to everything being "composed of" homogenous reality, our perception of variation serves to hide the knowledge or perception or experience of that homogenous reality. Our perception of variation is a "veil" or "covering" or "overlay" that hides the perception of the real homogenous entity that underlies everything. The only way to know or realize the reality of the single primal entity is to know that we're deluded. Knowing is not enough, however; somehow the delusion has to be seen for what it is, or even eliminated entirely. If we see a fallen tree lying on the ground and believe it's a dead body, we'd likely run away or call the police. But if the tree is seen for what it is, the "dead body" idea will instantly vanish. So if we could for one moment perceive the primal homogenous entity directly, our delusion of differentiation would vanish and we would see reality for what it really is.

Can it be done? Can we rid ourselves of this delusion of subject and objects? Many say that it's possible. Note that even the ideas of time and space and causation (action-reaction) arise from our delusion of differentiation; if there really is only one Thing, one timeless, eternal, primal Fact, then that's ALL there is. There cannot be more than one.

So how do we get rid of the delusion of the mind and the senses, and see reality for what it is? Well, that's a topic for another article, but there are many religions and philosophical systems that offer ways and means to do this (these methods are sometimes called "yogas," sometimes "paths," sometimes something else). Some of these systems of thought say that "enlightenment" or "realization" happens when the delusion of differentiation disappears.

The only way to find out if the nondual perspective is true is to explore it yourself. Most nondual systems of thought strongly emphasize *experience* over book learning. They say "If you want to know if something is true or not, apply it to your life in this way, and see if you perceive truth here." However, at the beginning, it can be very helpful to do some reading within the different nondual systems and schools of thought (it should be noted here that nonduality is not *confined* to various systems or schools of thought (it stands alone as a perspective), but often appears in those contexts).

A few of the various contexts of nonduality:
* Science (mainly quantum physics)
* Religions (Buddhism, Vedanta, many others)
* Individuals (belief systems and experiences)
* National Traditions (Tibet, India, etc)
* Websites/Internet (a potpourri of different views)
--October 31, 1999

For those who may have read my other definitions, it's amazing how wordy they are, how full of concepts gleaned from other sources like books, list members, gurus, upanishads, scriptures, web sites, etc., ad nauseum. I look at these earlier definitions and think "Who the hell was that masked man?!?" :-)

Amazing how words become ancient museum pieces, moments after they are written. Really, they are old even as they are spoken or written. A week later they're like looking at dried mummies in a museum.

-Definition 1-

Nonduality is a "state" in which neither duality nor nonduality is perceived!

-alternate 2-

Nonduality is just This, Here and Now.

-alternate3-

There is no such thing as duality or nonduality. That is nonduality.

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Jonathan Shearman

"Non-duality isn't experienced. All experience has a beginning and an end; one's real nature hasn't. "

This is from one of the definitions on your page and its very close to the mark.

Hence the 'nothing special' teaching of Shunryu Suzuki. If one is hanging out for an experience, one is looking in the wrong place!

If you're committed to a life of meditation, you are constantly called to pay attention to what is here and now - the actual, not it's imaginary ramifications.

The human condition being what it is, this is very difficult for us. So we have to learn to give our undivided attention. There's your 'non-dual'!

'Non-dual' is from 'a' - 'not' and 'dvai' - dual or divided. Not-divided. Undivided. Hence when there is thought about 'me' and 'mine' , then naturally your attention is divided - between what 'I' want, and 'the rest'.

Very simple. But it takes a life of utmost commitment and dedication to realise it, to live from that simplicity. It takes a religious dedication, even if one foregoes the trappings. There is no pay-off for this. It doesn't, Anthony Robbins nothwithstanding, make sure all your bills get paid

Al-Maqtul Bey

Reflections on Non-dualism

Just to get it out of the way, I'll start us off with the most elementary and generally agreed-upon definition of non-dualism. Also called monism, the non-dualistic perspective (I won't call it a belief or a religion, since it is principally a way that reality reveals itself to a perceiver) is the understanding that ultimate reality is continuous and singular, "all-one", and that we humans, as well as all of nature and the material world are continuous with each other as well as all things unseen. On that premise, it is felt that consciousness is continuous as well, and that the personal consciousness can be expanded into a complete identification with the ONE. From this point on is where we see the many divergent interpretations of non-dualism. Some people think that therefore one should make pooja here, take refuge there, dress in robes, burn incense and chant things. Non-dualism devolves into conceptual word games. Bound to language as we are, it is difficult to avoid these word games. When one goes to teachers, zendos, ashrams, retreats, etcetera, the game-playing is taken to greater heights. People judge the awakened-ness of each other by how well they are costumed, how well they've mastered the walk, talk, and poses of their particular game. I'm sure it's very distracting to constantly keep track of who's getting more favor from the teachers, who's ahead in the race for enlightenment, and who's not playing by the rules. I hope you recognize that these religion games will not quench your thirst for enlightened consciousness. It seems that those things ration out light in very small quantities, just sufficient to keep you wanting more. Why do people do it? Some teachers attained to some profound height or other, and decided to capitalize on it. So many eager people are looking for the express bus to attainment that these teachers can hang out a shingle, turn on the charm, and they will come. This is not the path to non-dualism. Where's the path then? There is no path. It is "pathless" as J. Krishnamurti said. No teachers are needed, for it is already there. How many seekers expressed regret for the time spent chasing gurus when they realized that what they sought had always been right in front of them. Not even hidden. Well, maybe hidden by those over-wrought flights of fancy that one projects onto the world. It is when you give up the search that all the words and fantasies fall away, and the truth can finally wash the senses clear.

Ayya Khema
http://www.vipassana.com/meditation/khema/allofus/non-duality.php

Non-duality

Truth occupies a very important
position in the Buddha's teaching. The Four Noble
Truths are the hub of the wheel of the Dhamma.
Truth (sacca) is one of the ten perfections to be
cultivated in order to purify oneself.

Truth can have different aspects. If we want to
find an end to suffering, we have to find truth
at its deepest level. The moral precepts which
include "not lying" are a basic training without
which one can't lead a spiritual life.

To get to the bottom of truth, one has to get to
the bottom of oneself, and that is not an easy
thing to do, aggravated by the problem of not
loving oneself. It naturally follows that if one
wants to learn to love oneself, there must be
hate present, and we are caught in the world of
duality.

While we are floating around in the world of
duality, we can't get to the bottom of truth,
because we are suspended in a wave motion going
back and forth. There is an interesting
admonition in the Sutta Nipata, mentioning that
one should not have associates, which prevents
attachments. This would result in neither love
nor hate, so that only equanimity remains,
even-mindedness towards all that exists. With
equanimity one is no longer suspended between
good and bad, love and hate, friend and enemy,
but has been able to let go, to get to the bottom
where truth can be found.

If we want to find the basic, underlying truth of
all existence, we must practice "letting go."
This includes our weakest and our strongest
attachments, many of which aren't even recognized
as clinging.

To return to the simile of the truth to be found
at the bottom, we can see that if we are clinging
to anything, we can't get down to it. We're
attached to the things, people, ideas and views,
which we consider ours and believe to be right
and useful. These attachments will keep us from
getting in touch with absolute truth.

Our reactions, the likes and dislikes, hold us in
suspense. While it is more pleasant to like
something or someone, yet both are due to
attachments. This difficulty is closely
associated with distraction in meditation. Just
as we are attached to the food that we get for
the body, we are equally attached to food for the
mind, so the thoughts go here and there, picking
up tidbits. As we do that, we are again held in
suspense, moving from thought to breath and back
again, being in the world of duality. When our
mind acts in this way, it cannot get to rock
bottom.

Depth of understanding enables release from
suffering. When one goes deeper and deeper into
oneself, one finds no core, and learns to let go
of attachments. Whether we find anything within
us which is pure, desirable, commendable or
whether it's impure and unpleasant, makes no
difference. All mental states owned and cherished
keep us in duality, where we are hanging in
mid-air, feeling very insecure. They cannot bring
an end to suffering. One moment all might be well
in our world and we love everyone, but five
minutes later we might react with hate and
rejection.

We might be able to agree with the Buddha's words
or regard them as a plausible explanation, but
without the certainty of personal experience,
this is of limited assistance to us. In order to
have direct knowledge, it's as if we were a
weight and must not be tied to anything, so that
we can sink down to the bottom of all the
obstructions, to see the truth shining through.
The tool for that is a powerful mind, a weighty
mind. As long as the mind is interested in petty
concerns, it doesn't have the weightiness that
can bring it to the depth of understanding.

For most of us, our mind is not in the
heavy-weight class, but more akin to bantam
weight. The punch of a heavy-weight really
accomplishes something, that of a bantam weight
is not too meaningful. The light-weight mind is
attached here and there to people and their
opinions, to one's own opinions, to the whole
duality of pure and impure, right and wrong.

Why do we take it so personal, when it's truly
universal? That seems to be the biggest
difference between living at ease and being able
to let the mind delve into the deepest layer of
truth, or living at loggerheads with oneself and
others. Neither hate nor greed are a personal
manifestation, nobody has a singular claim on
them, they belong to humanity. We can learn to
let go of that personalized idea about our mind
states, which would rid us of a serious
impediment. Greed, hate and impurities exist, by
the same token non-greed and non-hate also exist.
Can we own the whole lot? Or do we own them in
succession or five minutes at a time for each?
Why own any of them, they just exist and seeing
that, it becomes possible to let oneself sink
into the depth of the Buddha's vision.

The deepest truth that the Buddha taught was that
there is no individual person. This has to be
accepted and experienced at a feeling level. As
long as one hasn't let go of owning body and
mind, one cannot accept that one isn't really
this person. This is a gradual process. In
meditation one learns to let go of ideas and
stories and attend to the meditation subject. If
we don't let go, we cannot sink into the
meditation. The mind has to be a heavy-weight for
that too.

We can compare the ordinary mind to bobbing
around on the waves of thoughts and feelings. The
same happens in meditation, therefore we need to
prepare ourselves for becoming concentrated. We
can look at all mind states arising during the
day and learn to let go of them. The ease and
buoyancy which arises from this process is due to
being unattached. If we don't practice throughout
the day, our meditation suffers because we have
not come to the meditation cushion in a suitable
frame of mind. If one has been letting go all
day, the mind is ready and can now let go in
meditation too. Then it can experience its own
happiness and purity.

Sometimes people think of the teaching as a sort
of therapy, which it undoubtedly is, but that's
not its ultimate aim, only one of its secondary
aspects. The Buddha's teaching takes us to the
end of suffering, once and for all, not just
momentarily when things go wrong.

Having had an experience of letting go, even just
once, proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that it
means getting rid of a great burden. Carrying
one's hate and greed around is a heavy load,
which, when abandoned, gets us out of the duality
of judgment. It's pleasant to be without
thinking; mental formations are troublesome.

If we succeed even once or twice during a day to
let go of our reactions, we have taken a great
step and can more easily do it again. We have
realized that a feeling which has arisen can be
stopped, it need not be carried around all day.
The relief from this will be the proof that a
great inner discovery has been made and that the
simplicity of non-duality shows us the way
towards truth.

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