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#1496 - Friday, July 18, 2003 - Editor: Gloria

Lee Love ~ E-zendo  

I wrote this for the ClayArt list, but thought I'd share it here too.     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    We all come to clay by different paths.

             I decided to become a potter at my zen teacher's funeral.     It
went something like this:

             I helped attend my teacher during his illness with lymphoma.    I
was one of a half dozen male students that attended him.  We each took a
different day of the week.   I think one of his sons took the 7th day.   We
would help my teacher up to the 3rd floor, where he slept, when he couldn't get
about on his own.      I carried him on my back on several occasion.

       About 6 months after his illness was diagnosed, he went into remission.
I took this opportunity to ask him to let me to take priest vows.  I had studied
with him the total of about 6.5 years by then.    He told me he would make me a
zen priest, but wanted me to talk to my wife about it and think about it for one
year.     I told him that Jean and I had spoken about it many times and she
supported my decision.   But my teacher said that marriage was important and
that every married student that he allowed to become a priest ended up getting
divorced.   So he said, "take care of your marriage, and in a year, I will give
you the vows. "   I agreed to wait a year.

        Six months later, he  died.    At the funeral, I decided that I didn't
want to start over with another teacher.   And that because my teacher said he'd
give me the vows, that was good enough for me, and if I lived my life as though
I had taken the vows, that it was as good as taking them from him.     The only
reason you need the papers, is if you want to marry and bury people.     I
figured, because my teacher had 12 dharma heir priests, that this aspect would
be taken care of by them.

        I was fortunate to be able to attend my teacher's body while the
traditional 3 days before cremation was observed.    Constant meditation periods
were held during the 3 days and I took my turn at being one of the "bell
ringers" during that time (the lead time keeper of the mediation period.)    The
person who came out from California, to direct the funeral preparations was able
to find a traditional nailess casket, made by a Hassidic casket maker.
Usually, what people do, is put the body in a disposable cardboard liner that is
then put in a rental casket.    For cremation, only the body and the cardboard
box is put into the oven.    But with a nailess traditional pine box like what
the Hassidic craftsmen make, you can just put the whole casket in the cremator.

        I was really taken by the craftsmanship that this plain pine casket
represented.     I decided, because of the craftsmanship of this casket, which
was very similar to the craftsmanship of Shaker furniture, that I wanted to
become a potter and make urns for people's ashes, with the same spirit that this
Hassidic casket maker did.    That was March of 1990.   In the fall, I enrolled
in my first  evening clay class at the UofMN.   I didn't make a very logical

        I am currently studying traditional wood block printing with a teacher
here in Mashiko.  If you ever visit the Messe museum, you'll see his
illustrations in the covered bridge on the way to the museum buildings.    He
also made prints that are sort of charactures that you see everywhere, of
Hamada, Leach and Yanagi.    He is also a fine potter, but has not fired his
noborigama in many years.  He is a living, breathing, "Unknown Craftsman."

        One time, someone asked my teacher, Itoe Sensei, why he didn't fire his
noborigama any more.     Itoe-san answered:  "A couple birds made a nest in the
chimney of the noborigama.    I didn't think I should disturb them."

Lee In Mashiko
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      "With Humans it's what's here (he points to his heart) that makes the difference.
                If you don't have it in the heart, nothing you make will make a difference."

                                    ~~Bernard Leach~~
                                            (As told to Dean Schwarz)


Jan Barendrecht ~ NDS

The enlightenment issue is a non-issue when born to parents like those
of Jnanadeva:
Prevent the formation of childhood conditioning and childhood enlightenment is the case.

Once, when Swami Ramanand visited Alandi, Rukhamabhai prostrated towards him in reverence.
Seeing the spirituality in her face, Ramanand blessed her with good spiritual children.
Rukhamabhai smiled wryly and told him that her husband was an ascetic and was actually his disciple.
Ramanand went back to Benares and told Vitthalpant to go back to Alandi and resume the married life and have progeny.

Vitthalpant went back and shocked the whole community by resuming his married life
(In India, once a person takes sanyas, one can not resume the material life under any circumstances).
They had four children in quick succession. Jnaneshvar (hereafter refered as Jnanadeva) was the second child.
The eldest was nivritti and Sopana was the third male child. The last child was his sister, Mukti.
One may appreciate the names: nivritti, and jnana are sopana (ladder) for attaining mukti.


Hur Guler ~ NDS  

well, i cannot top this story.  that's why hindus dominate the
mythical devotion genre. 

on the other hand, if it was an american soap opera, pretty rukha
would fall in love and have an affair with the powerful cardinal rama
and spin the "thornbirds II."  after getting rukna pregnant, the
cardinal rama immediately releases the husband vitta from his
priestly mission, so he could hurry back and assume the married life,
thinking the child is his.

listening to the stories of longing by his love torn mother, the
child jnana grows up with the mission to save the world from the
evils of devotion.  once he reaches the age where he is proficient in
nondual-lingo, jnana starts giving satsangs in california.  he finds
the same 20 people who show up at every satsang, mentally comparing
jnana to the mythical gurus that they've only read about.  jnana then
realizes the impossibility of his nondual mission.  luckily jnana has
another talent.  he takes up a career in singing sappy love songs in
bars to the hopeless lovers who never recovered from their lost
love.  jnana knows full well that this is the heart which wine cannot
console and yet the songs in him sing themselves despite himself.

Jerry Katz ~ NDS  

The following comes from the Universal Life Church:  

"Special Title" - $10.00 Your title will be recorded in the
permanent church records. Nice 8x10 certificate is inscribed
with your name, title, and date issued. Another great gift
idea. You must select a title from drop down list:

Apostle of Humility
Apostolic Scribe
Arch Deacon
Arch Priest
Ascetic Gnostic
Bible Historian
Field Missionary
Flying Missionary
Free Thinker
Healing Minister
High Priest
High Priestess
Lay Sister
Minister of Music
Minister of Peace
Missionary Doctor
Missionary Healer
Missionary of Music
Missionary Priest
Most Reverend Christian
Mother Superior
Mystical Philosopher
Orthodox Monk
Parochial Educator
Pastor General
Pastoral Counselor
Peace Counselor
Religious Preacher
Reverend Father
Reverend Mother
Right Reverend
Saintly Healer
Soul Therapist
Spiritual Counselor
Spiritual Healer
Spiritual Warrior
The Very Esteemed
Universal Philosopher of Absolute Reality
Universal Rabbi
Universal Religious Philosopher


Me, I can't decide between Druid or Universal Rabbi. But I have a feeling if I get both titles I'll turn into Woody Allen.  


David Holmes ~ HarshaSatsangh  

Gurus, gurus everywhere
The ones outside inform and entertain, thrill and disappoint
The One inside liberates

As you please . . .
Worship a personality, a hill or a Bodhi tree
Or just let it all be what it is

Take the dust at another's feet
Or take the dust is at your own feet
It's all just as dusty
(Just keep your credit card and your dignity)

Love is Love
And one day Love will find itself and be free
And that day has already come

Polluting the ether with more words .. . .
Sitting at the feet of my Sangha friends . . .
Feeling there are no strangers in the Heart . . .
Letting gurus be friends and friends be gurus . .. .
I am home.

Blessings to you all . . .
Smiling and shining in one another



There is a very funny and well-made film
recently out on VHS and DVD called
"The Guru",  which has been described
as "campy Bollywood musical meets
American screwball comedy".

Something some of you non-duelers will no doubt appreciate
in this film is the satirization of the American/Western tendency to
"buy into" anything that smacks of
Eastern spirituality, without knowing what
it is, for instance,  how they assume that ALL Indians and their mannerisms are
spiritual,  when they are just being......Indian.

There is a very funny scene about "spiritual sex", and
the singing, dancing and the ultra-bright colors
are fabulous!   Something for everyone!



Jerry Katz ~ NDS  

I sent a couple of notes on viewing this list as an ecosystem. I came across the following piece by Swedenborg at  

Swedenborg made observations about the behavior of our spiritual bodies in the other world. I slightly modified it to apply to this list, or lists, instead of "the other world." See how much sense it makes in places. Note how the list, like "the other world," is -- or could be -- a place where boundaries loosen considerably.  

1. Individuals on the list cannot think by themselves but only in
  (note: when you think about this list or any list you're involved in, see if you think about the list as a group energy or vibration and not a single person or cluster of identifiable individuals. This jibes with a foundational thought I had about Nondual Activism a couple of years ago: "I'm suggesting that a person on these lists can know a felt group of many and can act as the group, and that this has power even if no one else knows that the felt group is, through an act of attention, a part of the action.")  

2. No one can lie on the list, i.e., think one thing and say

3. External environmental features are functionally related to
   internal affective and cognitive states.

4. Similarity of affective states brings interpersonal

5. Intelligence and power on the list are functions of good
   uses acquired. "Good uses" are actions
   performed for the sake of others rather than self only.

5. On the list the insistent denial of truth causes insanity.  

6. There are no degenerative diseases and death on the list,
   but there are deformations and non­functioning elements.
   For example, antisocial feelings and attitudes produce a
   deadening of the senses, a darkening of the field of
   vision, and a general cold invades and slows the body. By
   contrast, altruistic and sociable feelings and intentions
   generate warmth and a quickening of all bodily functions
   and uses.

7. On the list every individual feels compelled to act out
   their feelings and thoughts. Under these conditions, the
   person soon evolves a clear hierarchy of motives by which
   the person is ruled. It is easy, Swedenborg reports, for
   others to predict your behavior as soon as they know and
   see your motivational or affective hierarchy. A person's
   "ruling love," or chief drive and motive in life, shows in
   the person's facial expression, body posture and
   appearance, and matching verbal behavior.

8. Growth on the list amounts to the continuous and never
   ending exploration or deepening of the packet of affections
   we brought with us from offlist. Since on the list
   affections create ecology, it can be seen that external
   evolution of the list matches the internal growth of
   the people. But it is to be remembered that no one can
   exist separate from some group, hence the list is
   characterized by disparate group evolution ­­ which is one
   of the striking features one notes when traveling on the
   list (what a marvelous anthropological field it must be!).


It might be interesting to start a list initially dedicated to itself as a list community. The common interest will not be anything other than the list itself. People will be assigned care of the different spaces that I spoke of in an earlier post. When all that is looked after, then people will be invited who have something to talk about. Let's say the topic is nonduality. The new members of the community will have to interface with the keepers of the spaces. What's the purpose of all this? To empower the list, the group. To charge it in a way that hasn't been done before.  

I started a new list called Listcology.  

Daily Dharma  

In 1989. during a retreat for psychotherapists held in Colorado, Fritz
Perls made the statement, "You are you, and I am me, and
if by chance we meet, that's wonderful. If not, it couldn't be helped."

Thich Nhat Hanh wrote a poem in reply:

"You are me, and I am you.
Isn't it obvious that we 'inter-are'?
You cultivate the flower in yourself,
so that I will be beautiful.
I transform the garbage in myself,
so that you will not have to suffer.
I support you;
you support me.
I am in this world to offer you peace;
you are in this world to bring me joy."

~Thich Nhat Hanh

From personal notes.

Blessings to all.  May peace and peace and peace be everywhere.

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